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Title: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on January 04, 2019, 10:43:16 AM
It all seemed rather odd seeing a school route number on a bus on a Saturday afternoon if that is what the 53A is, even more so with the schools shut. Perhaps they were testing their suffix numbers in preparation for the 9A/B.

I went to Cambridge on New Years Eve on the X5 and found myself conveyed in 19889. I had my first viewings of the 9A and 9B with 19699 and 19891 on them. I also had my first sighting of 15401 in corporate livery and no longer in tango orange on a 50.

The solo and trident are still in situ in the garage naughty corner and since 2019 commenced I have only seen 18419 and 18424 in service. As I viewed 18336 on a 5 on 31 December would I be right in thinking that 18423 is the specimen inside the garage?

On 2 January 27521 had the honour of being my first bus of the year on the 0839 9 with 36044 on the 0911 6 to the office. 19699 did the 0840 9B and 19891 did the 0910 9A. 18419 was on the 0845 73, 19703 the 0900 81 and 37431 the 0905 41. After work I did 19892 on a 51 into town which continued to Hitchin as the 1740 9B so I had the same bus all the way home. It would have been like old times of doing the olys and not getting off on arrival at the bus station by remaining on it for the next route. Unfortunately the driver didn't play ball as he went into the old 72 bay for Hitchin, instead of the 9 bay which was vacant. As this meant he had to shunt the bus into the correct bay, I found myself ejected for this move and dumped at the back of the queue. Anyway it looks like the 51 is still interworking with the Hitchin service despite the number change of the latter.

Yesterday produced 34829 on my 0839 9, 34830 on the 0911 6 after flagging 34831 on the 0859 6, 34825 on the 6 after work and 34827 on the 1730 81 home. It must be the first time ever I have had four vehicles from the same batch on a work day without even trying to do it.

Stuff noted in the morning were37436 on the 0839 2 to Flitwick, 27643 on the 0915 73, 19889 on the 0840 9B, 19706 on the 0910 9A, 37437 on a 2, 19700 on the 0900 53, 37433 and 37435 on 5's, 19890 on the 0900 81, 19888 arrived on a 9B and then did the 0915 51 whilst 27520 was on a 41. On my way home in the dark I noted 19892 on the 1715 51, 18419 on the 1724 1, 18424 on a late running 1723 6, 37437 on the 1739 2 to Flitwick, 34428 on the 1745 51, 27522 on the 1736 1 and 19703 on the 1740 9B.

This morning I had 34424 on the 0839 9 and 27520 back to haunt me on the late 0859 6 to work. 19892 was the 0845 73, 19698 the 0900 53, 27646 the 0900 81, 37433 was in situ for the 0915 73, 19699 the 0910 9A, 19890 arrived on a 9B to form the 0915 51, 37432 was also on a 53 and 37431 on a 6. The cold weather must have been afflicting the solos as 34830 was on a 3 and 36936 on a 7.

The 0839 9 has been on time this week and the 9A/B has been solid E400's but what will next week bring with the return of the little monsters and the traffic bedlam that will ensue? Chances are the 0839 will either be very late or just not show up and the E400's on the 51 will be late arriving to form the Hitchin service so the drivers will end up taking parked up single decks to cover journeys. Years of experience have given me little faith when normal traffic levels resume in this town...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on January 07, 2019, 02:00:09 PM
On Saturday I made the mistake of doing a one way journey to Northampton and was rewarded with 36045 which tops my list of buses I want to avoid in Bedford. I can't believe my rotten luck that of all the corporate and green buses we have in Bedford I had to get lumbered with the one pink thing in the fleet. I did momentarily think about going to Cambridge but that idea was quickly binned when the ghastly white crate SB12 NMZ or whatever its reg appeared on the X5.

Other stuff noted in the Saturday morning darkness were:

1 - 18419, 19698
2 - 36935, 36936
3 - 48024, 48036
5/6 - 19892, 27523, 27647
9A/B - 19699, 19702, 19893
41 - 36045, 37434
50 - 15402 (also now in corporate livery like 15401), 19083
51 - 19890, 19891
53 - 34827, 36044, 37435, 37437
73 - 34428, 37431
X5 - 19706 (0726 to Cambridge)

I didn't see too much this morning as I walked into town but both 19893 on the 81 from Luton and 19891 on the 9A from Hitchin were both in double figures lateness. 19893 had a quick turnaround as it went back to Luton as the 0900 81. 19699 did the 0840 9B with 19888 on the 0910 9A so they are still in control of the Hitchin circuit. 27647 did the 0845 73 and 37435 was on a 2 and that's about all I saw.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on January 08, 2019, 02:27:19 PM
My 100% record of seeing an E400 on every 9A/B ended on my way home from work yesterday as 18424 carted me off home on the 1740 9B. 19701 had done the 1725 9. It was a bit dark but I think it was 18410 on the 1712 50 and there was an E400 on the X5 short to MK but I couldn't see which one it was.

This morning my 0839 9 with 27642 was on time but I didn't have it into town as immediately in front of it was 19702 on the 0735 81 from Luton but it was 19892 that actually stopped to pick me up with the 0725 from Hitchin 9A running about 15 late as expected now the school traffic has returned. The 0911 6 was running very late according to the screen so I used 19706 on the 0915 51 to get me most of the way to the office. Once again 18424 interrupted the E400 dominance of the Hitchin runs by turning up to work the 0910 9A.

I assume the presence of E400's on the Hitchin circuit has rocked the boat on route 1 and left them short of suitable deckers as 37434 did the 0912 1 and 36935 the 0924 1. The 0915 73 also seems to be subject to single deckers now and it was the turn of 37433 to produce on it today. 37431 arrived on a 73 as 34424 departed on a 2. 37437 left on a 5 after 37432 went out on the late 0905 41 to Northampton. Both 37438 and 18419 were on 53's and I still haven't seen 18336 or 18423 this  year.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Julia_Hayward on January 09, 2019, 07:13:46 AM
It is indeed SB12NMZ as I'm currently on it, and to be fair, it's actually all working which is better than Bedford's own! I personally like its interior better than the normal Elites too, especially the gangway which is wide enough for me, and the gentle blue lighting when in the dark (as opposed to complete darkness). On the down side they haven't set up the wi-fi, though I'm used to that disappointment every day they put an Enviro out
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on January 10, 2019, 02:23:44 PM
One of the sly moves in converting the 71/72 into a 9A/B and diverting them via the 9 route was to reduce the service from five buses an hour to just four to Shortstown and now meaning that two of those services per hour are more wedged with them going through to Hitchin. At least when the five an hour ran previously they only went to Shortstown so you could breathe unless it was a solo. As far as I am concerned this has made my peak time journeys more of a wedge and I am not in the slightest bit impressed.

As expected on Tuesday evening with the schools back and everyone returning to normal work patterns the 1740 9B was a hideous experience. The luggage space was full as I boarded 19893 so I had to go upstairs carrying two heavy shopping bags. The service was rammed and it didn't help having people sitting on the stairs, which isn't allowed in theory, whilst I was trying to walk down steps with bags on a moving bus squeezing past staircase bodies. Am I now condemned to this misery every night on the 1740? The 1735 72 double deck was always packed so merging the service with an equally packed 1741 9 is not the smartest of moves. That will teach me for not doing 27647 on the 1730 81.

This morning proved to be a repeat of Tuesday morning as I went for the 0839 9 and was rewarded with the spectacle, again, of three buses looming towards me. 19699 on the 0735 81 from Luton, 19706 on the 0725 9A from Hitchin and 27521 on the 0839 9. I got on 19706 again 15 minutes down. It was bad enough waiting for the bus to arrive from Shortstown, but now they are coming in from Hitchin, an hour away, they are even later. It stands to reason that the greater the distance they have to travel the likelier the greater the lateness when the traffic is at its worst. This is not very helpful to people going to work that their bus service is likely to be 15 minutes late every day as the bus has to come from Hitchin rather than Shortstown, so much more opportunity for things to go wrong. On top of this I have lost a lot of buses from the alternative method of getting home from London Road as only the 3 and 73 go that way now so overall vehicles lost to me is three each hour. Thankfully the 0911 6 with 36936 was on time and was a merciful relief in terms of breathing.

Perhaps a future move, as part of the ever ongoing cost cutting measures, will see the 9A/B go to Hitchin on its current route and return to Bedford via Biggleswade and Sandy to wipe out the need for the 73 and vice versa going the other way. Other possibles for the future would be to send the 81 via Flitwick to Luton and stop the hourly route 2 journey to Flitwick. Bedford could ditch the 51 from its books and get the Kettering route 50 to serve all the 51 stops instead. Limitless opportunities are out there to make the journey experience of the future even more depressing than it currently is!

As observed the other day it appears route 1 is paying the price of increased usage of E400's on the 9A/B as the two services I viewed were 34828 and 36935. However, I knew it wouldn't take long for the double deck dominance to end when the traffic picked up as 34831 did the 0910 9A. Lets hope that isn't on the diagram for the 1740 9B later.

Other piffle noted were 19705 on the 0840 9B, 19888 on the 0845 73, 27643 on the 0915 73, 19699 the 0900 81, 18419 on a 53, 47351 on a 8, 34424 on a 3 and 34428 on a 7. What I don't understand is where were all the former grasshoppers? In the same time span on Tuesday there were six of them infesting the bus station but today nothing as if they had been sprayed with repellent.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on January 11, 2019, 12:51:52 PM
Thankfully the 1740 9B was bearable last night with 19892 and left just after 19890 on the X5 short to MK. This morning the 0839 was on time with 34425 not far behind the inbound 81 with 19703 which then goes on to do the 0900 81. We passed oly P423 KSX making me envious of school kids for being on the better bus.

There were two tridents on the 1 but I couldn't read their numbers as they were in the distance passing each other. However, there was a single deck also on the route which was 36935. 34424 and 34428 were on the 2's , 19889 on a 53 and 19893 on the 0910 9B. As 37438 was parked up in the 73 bay I assume it would have done the 0915. I didn't see much else as I did the late 0859 6 to work which was 34833.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on January 14, 2019, 01:48:56 PM
On Saturday morning I went into town under cover of darkness with 19698 on the first 9B of the day from Hitchin before disappearing to London but what I did see were:

1 - 19700, 19893
2 - 19702 (to Flitwick), 19891
3/7 - 37434, 48025, 48031, 48033
4 - 37434, 48036
5/6 - 18419, 27643, 27645
9/9A/9B - 18336 (my first sighting of the year), 19698, 19703, 19888
41 - 34827, 34832
51 - 18336, 19888
53 - 34428, 34830, 37432
73 - 34833, 36936, 36937
81 - 19890

I found myself in town for an hour Sunday morning to view the single deck only offerings on the following routes:

1 - 34825, 34828, 34833
2 - 37438
3 - 47351
5 - 37433
7 - 37431, 37435
8 - 47352
9 - 37435, 37438
10 - 48036
53 - 34828, 34833

19889 was sat spare with two Elite's when I went home on 37435 on the 9.

This morning the traffic was grim and I was unable to get across the road as not enough gaps in the traffic moving along to risk my life to get 19699 on the inbound 81. That was unfortunate as I got to the stop at 0838 and was still there at 0852 wondering if I had missed the 0824 9A and where was the 0839 9? As partially expected the 9A and 9 appeared together both well late which seems to be the norm at present. 19703 stopped on the packed with students service from Hitchin as 36935 sailed past on the 9. There would have been some seats if people removed their bags and feet from the few seats available. Of course, after the college stop there were plenty of seats, not that I would use one where feet had just been.

As expected 19699 went back to Luton on the 0900 81 and the 0915 73 now seems to be a single deck with 27644 doing the honours. One good thing about the 9A/B is it is becoming easier to avoid the 27xxx piffle albeit 27521 still got me on the 6 much to my chagrin as it should have been 34424 but that nasty habit of the driver disgorging passengers outside the loos and then driving off empty to Brickhill was back on the menu. Two 1's came in together 19698 and 19893 and the latter did a disappearing trick of running empty to the next stop but I guess at least E400's appear to be back in the fold on them after a diet of single decks last week. 19891 arrived on a 53 whilst 19706 arrived on a 9B before doing the 0915 51. The 0910 9A was 18424 whilst old grasshoppers 37436 did a 53, 37433 a 2 and 37437 a 3.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on January 15, 2019, 01:05:58 PM
The 1740 9B with 19891 was surprisingly deserted, well upstairs anyway, yesterday evening. 18336 did the 1745 51.

This morning 19698 arrived 15 late on the 0824 9A into town which appears to be a given. No sign of the 0839 9 which is what I turned up for. In fact I didn't see the 9 or the inbound 81 at all.

Other stuff noted before I got on 36936 on the late 0911 6 to work were 18336 on a 1, 19701 on a 53, 19700 on the 0840 9B, 37439 on the 0909 2, 18424 on the 0910 9A and 27645  on the 0915 73. The downside of having an earlier start from home now is that I don't get to see the 0932 50 in case there is a Gold winner on it. I gather there were two out on the 50 last Friday.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: tomfrombedford on January 17, 2019, 12:53:52 PM
Has anyone else noticed in the last week that the 27xxx vehicles seem to have almost completely vanished? The 374xx lot and various darts seem to have taken over from them on the 5/6. Have I just been lucky in avoiding the 27xxx lot or have stagecoach finally stopped withering me with them?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on January 17, 2019, 02:09:59 PM
The 27xxx stuff seem to be on anything now and spreading their wings so routes like the 73 are now getting them because the deckers seem to be on the 9A/B circuit. On my way home from work on Tuesday 27522 was on a 1.

Talking of Tuesday, having had 36936 to work on a 6, my 6 back to town after work was 36935, passing 18104 on the 1712 50, and 37438 took me home on the 1730 81 albeit late. This was because 37438 arrived on a 2 and then shunted into the 81 bay, the driver took all the fares and then scarpered for another driver to take over.

I wasn't in the office yesterday but went into town for a meeting on 37431 on a 9 in the afternoon. I went home with 37433 on the 1730 81.

Obo's made were:
1 - 34831, 34833, 36937
2 - 19893, 34830 (1539 to Flitwick), 37434, 37435
5/6 - 18423 (my first sighting of the year and it looked like it had been painted / cleaned up)
9 - 27520, 37431
9A - 18419 (1510)
9B - 19705 (1740), 19889 (1540)
50 - 19083 (1532)
51 - 18419 (1745), 18423 (1545), 19888 (1615)
53 - 37438
53A - 19701
73 - 27646, 34424
81 - 37433 (1730)
X5 - 53613 (1541 to Cambridge duplicating an Elite)
River St - 53702, 53703, 53708

This morning my 0839 9 was on time with 27646 followed closely by the bog standard 15 minutes late 0725 9A from Hitchin with 19703. There is very little point in anyone wishing to do the 0845 51 turning up at 0840 for their bus. They needn't bother until 0855 when it finally shows on school days. 27523 was on the other 9 diagram.

Other piffle viewed were 18419 and 34428 on 2's, 18424 on a 53, 36937 on a 7, 19891 on the 0910 9A and 27520 on the 0915 73. I did the 10 late 34827 on the 0859 6 to work.



Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: chris johnson on January 17, 2019, 03:24:22 PM
36044 in Cambridge today seen it few minutes ago
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on January 17, 2019, 06:01:22 PM
36044 in Cambridge today seen it few minutes ago


Did it still have its 53 branding? Cambridge seem to want this batch back for some odd reason. This will be the reason why there are still 3 53 plate Darts in service at Bedford
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on January 19, 2019, 05:04:52 PM
Darts on solo routes today. 34831 (KX06JYO) on the 4 which interworks with the 10. This will be a tight fit around the narrow streets on the 10. 34832 (KX06JYP) on the 7. I've always thought the 7 should be a Dart/Enviro 200 anyway.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: chris johnson on January 19, 2019, 06:16:04 PM
36044  no 53 on bus still got wifi logo on it today in Cambridge
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on January 21, 2019, 01:45:04 PM
Before doing the 0800 train last Friday there was time to peer through the windows of buses passing in the dark and the following specimens were viewed:

1 - 18419, 18424, 37439
2 - 34828, 37431 (to Flitwick), 37436
3 - 34833, 48024
5 - 27523, 27642, 34831
7 - 37437
9 - 27644, 34827
9A - 18423, 19701
9B - 19701, 19703
51 - 18424
53 - 36936, 37433
53A - 19698
73 - 34830
81 - 27643
W7 - 53702

Once again on a Monday morning I didn't have enough for the bus fare so walked into town which was probably a sound move as the 0839 9 didn't pass me at any point. The solo vanishing act on route 3 continues with 34428 and 34833 both passing me as did 37435 on the 0839 2 to Flitwick, 19699 on the 0840 9B to Hitchin and 19889 on the 0845 73 to Biggleswade. 18424 did overtake me on the inbound 9A but as it was 15 late as ever, it didn't then do the 0845 51 and instead was held back to work the 0910 9A. 37438 was chucked out for the Oakley run. 18423 arrived for the 0900 1 at 0909 and the usual party trick was put in place of ignoring the departure bay and heading off to pick up at the first stop on the route. This meant 19700 had to collect the debris, sorry public, on the 0912 1.

Meanwhile 19891 worked the 0900 81, 37436 the 0915 73, 19893 the 0915 51 whilst random others noted were 37433 on a 5 and both 19890 and 37432 on 53's. Now 18423 is back I seem to have lost 18336 from my line of sight. Part grasshopper 37437 took me to work on a 6 but I have no idea which service it was after it had kept me waiting 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on January 23, 2019, 11:23:56 AM
Iv had Trident 18423 (AE06GZV) into town on the 1 this morning. This one has been repainted and finally lost its Huntingdonshire fleetnames years after transfer.
Solo SR 48032 (YJ66ASO) is the latest vehicle to lose Coast Hopper livery
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Steven Knight Media on January 23, 2019, 02:18:38 PM
Iv had Trident 18423 (AE06GZV) into town on the 1 this morning. This one has been repainted and finally lost its Huntingdonshire fleetnames years after transfer.
Solo SR 48032 (YJ66ASO) is the latest vehicle to lose Coast Hopper livery

Has 48032 gained the Greener, Smarter Travel livery?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on January 23, 2019, 05:45:04 PM
Has 48032 gained the Greener, Smarter Travel livery?
No it's in standard Stagecoach livery
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Steven Knight Media on January 24, 2019, 11:37:08 AM
No it's in standard Stagecoach livery

Many Thanks fort the confirmation
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on January 24, 2019, 02:08:29 PM
Well I can thank the good road rats of Bedford this morning for being late for work by not allowing me to cross the road to get my bus. You would not think it possible to see three buses approach your stop only 6 yards from where you are standing and end up missing all of them thanks to nobody giving way to let the chicken cross the road. 18419 sailed through on the 10 late 81 followed by 36045 on time with the 9. The E400 did stop on the booked 15 minutes late 9B but pulled away before I could reach the stop so thanks everyone for your thoughtfulness. I was so busy trying to risk my life that I didn't even notice the fleet number of the E400.

So there I was at 0840 faced with the prospect of 15 minutes freezing in the cold for the next service to arrive from Hitchin knowing full well it would be late and absolutely no prospect at all of being on time. One wonders why the 0725 and 0755 are not given longer journey times to reflect the road carnage getting into Bedford. They have done it with the X5, I even experienced the misery for myself yesterday. Foolishly I did the 0726 X5 booked to stagger and arrive at Cambridge Parkside at 0909 compared to 74 minute journey times for other services on the route and even that wasn't enough. It took a stately 2 hours to reach Cambridge as we limped in 18 minutes late on top of the extended journey time. I suggest the same extension is added to some of the peak hour 9A/B services.

As expected, like the dumbest of dumb people, I was still at my rancid bus stop at 0910 just the half an hour after failing to cross a road. The folly of penalising us workers of extending route 9 all the way to Hitchin amply demonstrated as the 0755 from Hitchin was due at 0854 but no sign of it. 18419 returned on the 0900 81 and 36045 on the 0855 9, both which hadn't stopped on the inbound to rub my nose in it further as if mocking me, "you still here?"

It is so obvious that once the 0839 has departed I haven't got a cat in hell's chance of the 0854 ever being on time on a school day to make the 0911 6. A 5 year old could have worked that out when preparing this travesty of a timetable for workers that the 0824 and 0854 will never be on time. Rescue came in the shape of 34827 on the 9 from Shortstown on the 0909 running about three minutes late. No surprises either that as were pulling away 19701 hove into view on the 0755 from Hitchin a cool 20 minutes down. I had to do the 0923 6 with 37431 passing 18104 on the inbound 50 for the 0932 and then explain my lateness to the boss that two buses didn't stop, as it is not a public service contrary to what Stagecoach might advertise, that road rats wouldn't give way for the third bus in the queue so I could board and then the fourth bus was 20 minutes late. At times my boss looks at me as though I'm mad which I was this morning. Hopping mad!

As I said earlier it  was freezing enough to watch the first departures of the day on Wednesday and not a solitary E400 appeared on an X5 between 0541 and 0726. Can it be true the Elite's are disease free?

0545 41 - 27642
0545 6 - 37431
0545 81 - 53618 departed 10 late too slow getting from garage
0546 5 - 37438
0552 73 - 37434 departed 9 late too slow to arrive from garage
0600 6 - 27647
0600 1 - 19698 departed 0603 with not in service on display
0601 5 - 37436
0610 9A - 19705
0610 53 - 19893
0611 X5 - 53616 to Cambridge
0615 1 - 19890
0615 6 - 36935
0616 5 - 36936
0620 81 - 19891
0622 73 - 37439
0630 53 - 34424
0630 1 - 18423
0630 6 - 27523
0639 2 - 36937 to Flitwick
0640 9B - 18419
0645 51 - 19706
0645 1 - 18336
0650 50 - 18104
0655 9 - 34425

Then I went for a fry up before doing the 0726 X5 so didn't note anything else. On my return from Cambridge 18336 was still out on the 2100 1, 18419 departed empty to the garage, 19892 arrived on a 9B and my 2115 9 home was 19700.


Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on January 24, 2019, 03:24:55 PM
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So there I was at 0840 faced with the prospect of 15 minutes freezing in the cold for the next service to arrive from Hitchin knowing full well it would be late and absolutely no prospect at all of being on time. One wonders why the 0725 and 0755 are not given longer journey times to reflect the road carnage getting into Bedford. They have done it with the X5, I even experienced the misery for myself yesterday. Foolishly I did the 0726 X5 booked to stagger and arrive at Cambridge Parkside at 0909 compared to 74 minute journey times for other services on the route and even that wasn't enough. It took a stately 2 hours to reach Cambridge as we limped in 18 minutes late on top of the extended journey time. I suggest the same extension is added to some of the peak hour 9A/B services.

Perhaps the new Stagecoach East MD – former Stagecoach East Midlands Managing Director Michelle Hargreaves (https://www.stagecoachbus.com/news/east-midlands/2017/june/stagecoach-east-midlands-managing-director-wins-top-transport-award) – will get a grip on this.

Suggest you follow her – aka @tezshell (https://twitter.com/tezshell?lang=en&lang=en) – and @Stagecoach_East (https://twitter.com/Stagecoach_East?lang=en) on Twitter.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on January 25, 2019, 04:15:04 PM
Perhaps the new Stagecoach East MD – former Stagecoach East Midlands Managing Director Michelle Hargreaves (https://www.stagecoachbus.com/news/east-midlands/2017/june/stagecoach-east-midlands-managing-director-wins-top-transport-award) – will get a grip on this.

Suggest you follow her – aka @tezshell (https://twitter.com/tezshell?lang=en&lang=en) – and @Stagecoach_East (https://twitter.com/Stagecoach_East?lang=en) on Twitter.

Thanks for that info.

 I went for the 0839 9 this morning, successfully getting across the road this time, and right on cue the 0725 9A from Hitchin due at 0824 arrived 15 minutes late with 19698 in the path of the 9. The 81, 19701, was behind it which in essence meant that once the 0809 9 had departed this morning, a 30 minutes fester would have ensued until these two buses showed up at 0839. As demonstrated yesterday a similar half an hour can be enjoyed in the cold of a January morning if you miss the 0839 and the 0854 is running 15 minutes or more late until the 0909 produces. Either way there is a potential 30 minute fester awaiting you if you attempt to go to work between 8 and 9 am. Just to prove I'm not just a grumpy old fossil, many of the students around me on 19698 were saying they have been late for their class every day this week and are fed up of having to apologise to the tutor every day. I gather some have made complaints which will probably get the same sort of denial there is an issue like the BBC does so aptly.

Whilst I had no problems today, it was still with some irritation, that the 0755 9B from Hitchin arrived at the bus station with 18424 bang on time. Yesterday the damn service was 20 minutes late when I was waiting for it. Stuff noted before I did 37437 on the 0911 6 to work were 19891 on the 0840 9B, 19702 on the 0910 9A, 37432 on a 6, 19699 on a 53, 37436 on a 2 and 34428 on a 3. 53708 rather cheekily parked up at one of the Greyfriars bus stops to annoy the solo drivers.

I wasn't overly happy going home yesterday on top of the morning farce when 27645 deposited me in the bus station on the 6, to find myself confronted by the painfully inadequate 36936 on the 1740 9B. Looking at the crush of people contorting themselves to squeeze on board I gave that a miss and swallowed my pride by doing slime 48036 on the 1745 3 and then walked. I could have spared myself that experience had I realised that 18336 was on the late 1745 73 which I have not yet ridden on this year.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on January 28, 2019, 01:57:58 PM
I left work on Friday a bit earlier on 37432 on the 6 to do the 1730 81 home rather than try my luck on the 1740 9B and was rewarded with 48033, not the sort of vehicle I was expecting to be sent to Luton when people are going home from work. Sometimes I just can't win when trying to avoid the wedge factor. 27643 sat on a 1 alongside.

On Saturday I did 19701 into town on the first 9 of the day on my way to London and observed the following:

1 - 19704, 19890
2 - 34428, 36936, 37436 (to Flitwick)
3 - 37438, 48023, 48025
4 - 34828, 48031, 48032
5 - 34825, 34830
8 - 48024
9 - 19701
9A - 19888, 19893
9B - 19701, 19892
41 - 27642
50 - 18101 (0832)
51 - 19701, 19888
53 - 19700, 34829, 37432, 37437
73 - 27644, 34827, 37434

It was certainly a case of the Monday morning blues today as having walked into town my services to work either by the 6 or 51 took a pasting. I arrived at the bus station at 0905 and didn't depart until doing 37435 on the 0935 6. Another half an hour of inactivity to remember my life by. As per usual no shortage of buses arriving from Brickhill on a 6 to form 5's but absolutely nothing in reverse as once more buses coming from Elms Farm vanish. This is always likely to happen when the 5 route takes twice as long to do compared to the 6. I can blame myself for being late for work as the 0859 didn't show according to the kids and 37437 which did arrive on a 5 retired hurt to the garage so there was no 0911. I thought I would do the 0915 51 instead, but of course, the decker hadn't actually yet arrived on the 0755 Hitchin after the miracle of Friday when it arrived on time. Foolishly I dismissed the 0923 as being a non entity and went to the shop and came back to see 34428 disappearing on it. 19703 finally graced us with its presence on the 9B from Hitchin 27 minutes late so by the time the 0915 51 departed behind the 0935 6 it was 22 down. There was no sign of the 0932 50 and we did not pass it on 37435.

Other stuff noted as I was a bus station prisoner were:

1 - 19698 (0912), 18419 (0924) and 37439 (0936)
2 - 37432 (0909) and 37433 (0924)
5 - 34425, 37436 and 37437 then taken out of service
9 - 34829 (0855) and 37434 (0925)
9A - 27643 (0910)
9B - 19889 (0840), 19703, 19705 (0940)
41 - 27523 (0905)
51 - 19703 (0915) arrived in bay 0933 and was loading up 0935
53 - 19893, 27522
73 - 19700 (0845) and 27644 (0915)

Bodes well for the snow forecast this week... :-X
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on January 28, 2019, 10:15:55 PM
I left work on Friday a bit earlier on 37432 on the 6 to do the 1730 81 home rather than try my luck on the 1740 9B and was rewarded with 48033, not the sort of vehicle I was expecting to be sent to Luton when people are going home from work. Sometimes I just can't win when trying to avoid the wedge factor. 27643 sat on a 1 alongside.


It doesn't help that Cambridge have pinched four of the 08 plate Enviro 200's. So the Solo's end up where they shouldn't be once again.

The 2019/20 Stagecoach orders will make interesting reading when they're released. Surely there will be some more MMC's for Stagecoach East. The Darts At Bedford, Fenstanton and Peterborough aren't getting any younger. It will probably be more new stuff for Saint Cambridge though
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on January 29, 2019, 01:35:13 PM
It doesn't help that Cambridge have pinched four of the 08 plate Enviro 200's. So the Solo's end up where they shouldn't be once again.

The 2019/20 Stagecoach orders will make interesting reading when they're released. Surely there will be some more MMC's for Stagecoach East. The Darts At Bedford, Fenstanton and Peterborough aren't getting any younger. It will probably be more new stuff for Saint Cambridge though

Very true but unfortunately for me they didn't pinch the pink pest as I had to endure 36045 on the 6 after work yesterday and it is still lurking on the 5/6 routes today. It was inevitable that the E400's on the Hitchin's would start waning. On top of the 0910 9A being a single deck yesterday so too was the 1740 9B as I found myself mangled amongst the bodies on 34832. On the ordeal home we passed another single deck on the 9A inbound. For the record 19083 did the 1712 50 and was late as is customary for that service.

This morning the traffic was static so I walked to town which proved a wise decision as nothing off my route overtook me before taking 34825 to work on the 6. Buses out were 19891 on the 0840 9B, 19700 0845 73, 19892 0900 81 (departed 0905 as arrived late from Luton), 18423 0910 9A, 27523 0915 73, 19701 0915 51, 37432 0925 3, Corby Star 15403 0932 50 and 19893 0940 9B. Others observed were 37431 on a 2, 48033 on a 5, 37435 on a 1 and 37438 on a 53.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on January 29, 2019, 07:26:01 PM
The latest Solo SR to lose Coast hopper livery is 48033 (YJ66ASU). This one has been painted into Stagecoach corporate livery.
On the subject of lack of deckers on the 9. Speaking to my usual contact at Stagecoach today. He told me that the depot have asked for more double deckers for the service. Where these would come from is anybody's guess unless they plan to fix the president bodied Tridents and put them back into service
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on January 30, 2019, 05:43:57 PM
The latest Solo SR to lose Coast hopper livery is 48033 (YJ66ASU). This one has been painted into Stagecoach corporate livery.
On the subject of lack of deckers on the 9. Speaking to my usual contact at Stagecoach today. He told me that the depot have asked for more double deckers for the service. Where these would come from is anybody's guess unless they plan to fix the president bodied Tridents and put them back into service

Hopefully there will be more double deckers arriving just so long as they don't offload the four tridents at the same time. I can just see six more E400's arriving and the four tridents are taken out of service so we only gain two vehicles. Yesterday my worst fears came to fruition on the way home from work when 36045 turned up on the 6 for the second day running. I just knew it would get me after viewing it on the 5 in the morning. 27642 didn't improve things heading home on the 1730 81.

I spared myself the morning misery today by working from home but an appointment in town this afternoon resulted in me doing 19893 on the 81 and I had to suffer 27642 home again this time on the 1625 9 as the hoped for double deck on the 1610 9A didn't produce.

1 - 18336, 18423, 34825, 34830, 37436
2 - 36936 (1539 Flitwick), 37431, 37439
3/7 - 34424
5/6 - 18419, 27522, 34425, 34428, 37432, 37435
School 6 - 19893 (1545 from Thomas Moore)
9 - 27642, 27644
9A - 19888, 27520 (1610)
9B - 19892 (1440), 19703 (1540), 19702
41 - 27645 (1535), 27646
50 - 15403 (1532 left 18 minutes late)
51 - 19701, 19702 (1545), 19703, 19706, 27521
53 - 18423, 37434
73 - 27647, 34828 (1445), 37438 (1525)
81 - 19893, 34829
828 school - 19706
830 school - 19889

19888 was supposed to work the 1515 51 but couldn't take any more and gave up the ghost. Attempts by the fitter failed and it was still blocking bay E when I left at 1625. Alien body 28631 was parked up in River St off the W7.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on January 31, 2019, 01:51:40 PM
For the first time this week I opted to do the 0839 9 into town rather than walk and it was normal service as usual with the 9A, 81 and 9 all approaching in convoy. 19892, 15 late as customary on the 9A stopped but I flagged it for the more sparsely populated 19706 on the 81 so I could sit down with 34831 propping up the rear on the 9 I actually went for. At the bus station 18423 did the 3 late 0900 53, 19892 departed 6 late on the 0900 81, 37439 was 10 late with the 0905 41, 19889 was 5 late on the 0910 9A but at least 37434 was right time with the 0915 73.

Unfortunately both the 0859 and 0911 6's were also late and the usual game then ensued as 34833 dropped into the bay to pick up all the school kids ramming it out so I thought I would be clever and get a seat on 37433 which presumably was the 0911. Wrong move as 37433 did the usual trick of changing the blind outside Iceland to Brickhill and then pulled away, sailing past the bay to head for Union St so perhaps he was the 0859 after all. Suitably unimpressed at being left behind I had no choice but to do 18419 on the 0915 51 and walk from the Sainsbury's stop complete with the driver who never looks at you or speaks. Lucky for him then that I was the only passenger as we left 3 late and he just had the bus to himself when I bailed as 15607 headed into town for the 0932 50.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on February 01, 2019, 01:23:35 PM
Another day and another trio of buses for me at 0839 as the snow fell. 19703 was first in on the late 81 followed by 19699 on the 15 late 9A and 34825 on the 9. I did 19703 which incidentally was my bus home on the 1740 9B the night before. Other stuff viewed were 27523 on the 0825 9, 27647 on a 73, 19698 on the 0845 73, 37437 on a 1, 37438 on a 2, 34424 on a 7, 36937 on a 41, 19889 on the 0910 9A and 19890 on a 51.

I had better luck today with the 6 as 27644 arrived for the late 0859 to remove the kids but this time 37434 on the 0911 did drop into the bay after the 0859 had gone. The snow has now totally cleared around my workplace.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on February 04, 2019, 01:23:53 PM
I did 19889 on the first 9 of the day into town on Saturday as I was heading into London again but whilst scoffing breakfast noted the following:

1 - 19704, 37437
2 - 36935, 36937, 37439 (to Flitwick)
3/7 - 37435, 48024, 48036
4 - 34833
5/6 - 27520, 27642, 34428
8 - 48031
9 - 19889
9A - 18424, 19701
9B - 18419, 19706
51 18419, 19889
53 - 19890, 34424, 37432, 37433
73 - 27643, 34827, 34829
81 - 19888

This morning the 0839 procession was led by the 9 for a change so I jumped on 27645, with the 15 late 19892 on the 9B and 19888 on the 81 also well late from Luton close behind. Other piffle viewed were 36935 on the 0825 9, 37431 on a 2, 37434 and 37436 on 6's, 19891 on the 0900 53, 34827 on the 0905 7 and 27646 on the 0905 41. 53708 parked up outside Iceland whilst 37435 took me to work on the 0911 6, completing the set of 37434-6 on Brickhill's.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on February 05, 2019, 01:08:12 PM
I did 19703 on the 6 after work for 19893 on the 1740 9B home which turned into snail mode as it took 20 minutes to reach my stop annoying me in the process as I missed the start of the news with Fifi. It should only take five minutes but our traffic is a joke.

I lost track of time this morning and didn't leave the house until 0838 and witnessed 19699 departing on the late 81 and on time 34832 sailing past the stop with the 9. It looked like I might be doomed and be stuck at the bus stop for half an hour but luckily 19702 on the 0824 9A was running 20 late instead of the obligatory 15 so I made that into town.

I just missed the late 0859 6 with 19701 and paid the price for that. The 0911 and 0923 6's turned up at 0918, and as customary in these situations, the 0911 being late scarpered empty towards Brickhill so once again the service I require to get me to work on time had ignored me. So it was 27522 dropped into the bay at 0919 to form the 0923 which meant I could only get to work on time if it left on time and we didn't stop. All hope was abandoned when the driver decided it was time to vaporise the bus station and sauntered back to his bus at 0926 so the 3 minutes late start ensured I would once more be late for work. As I am only in the office two days this week would it have been too much to ask to be on time both days? At least I don't have to face this rubbish the rest of this week.

Other bits and pieces noted were 36937 on the 0925 9, 19893 on the 0910 9A, 19888 on the 0915 51, 27643 on the 0915 73, 27647 on the 0905 41, 34424 on a 7, 37434 and 37437 on 2's, 37432 on a 5, 19702 on a 51 and 37436 on a 1. Once again 53708 opted to visit the outside of Iceland between W7 duties.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: HughT on February 08, 2019, 09:35:25 AM
Not sure whether this is the right place, but since it involves an X5, I thought it the best thread to post to.

Observed at Milton Keynes Railway Station, around 1625 yesterday (7 Feb). An Oxford-bound X5 - all-white coach, the only markings being Cambus operator details by the passenger door. Handmade X5 label attached to the windscreen. Reg SB12 NMZ. No sign of a fleet number.

Still, better than the double decker running the 0910 ex-Cambridge on Monday morning. Of course, you change vehicles at Bedford.

And on both trips the doors were working fine, so that's one advantage over the Volvos ;-)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: AE51VFX (Jonny) on February 09, 2019, 06:52:02 AM
Not sure whether this is the right place, but since it involves an X5, I thought it the best thread to post to.

Observed at Milton Keynes Railway Station, around 1625 yesterday (7 Feb). An Oxford-bound X5 - all-white coach, the only markings being Cambus operator details by the passenger door. Handmade X5 label attached to the windscreen. Reg SB12 NMZ. No sign of a fleet number.

Still, better than the double decker running the 0910 ex-Cambridge on Monday morning. Of course, you change vehicles at Bedford.

And on both trips the doors were working fine, so that's one advantage over the Volvos ;-)

The all white over white coach in question is an on hire to Stagecoach Bedford while the X5 coaches are being improved and refurbished.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on February 11, 2019, 08:51:53 AM
48035 (YJ66ASX) is the latest Solo SR to lose Coast Hopper livery in favour of Corporate livery. Just 48034 to be painted now.
Enviro 200 MMC'S 37431/32/34/37/39 (SN16OPV/W/Z/RG/J) still carry Coast Hopper livery
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on February 11, 2019, 01:55:56 PM
I think 37439 still has the word Coast Hopper on one side of the bus whereas the others have had all the wording removed which is why it is still half a green grasshopper to me. This specimen was the inadequate choice foisted on me last Tuesday on my way home with a crushing load on the 1740 9B. There literally was only room for a grasshopper to squeeze on board.

Back in the office today and mercifully with the kids off some semblance to the printed timetable. No trio of buses this morning as just 27523 appeared on time with the 0839 9 so I assume the 81 and 9B had earlier passed through close to booked timings. At least I am safe in doing the 0859 6 this week which was 19893. Unfortunately it didn't arrive until 0858 on the 5 and the driver required the facilities so we departed 5 minutes late as a result. Some of these timings when swapping routes are so tight that there seems to be little consideration to the drivers needs as they can't spend a penny in Brickhill or Elms Farm so they have to make use of the bus station even if it means delaying services.

I didn't get to see much today with the traffic flowing and a short wait at the bus station so only a handful of buses were viewed. I didn't see the semi grasshopper but it's mates 37434 and 37436 were on 2's and 37435 was on a 53. 36937 was poised on a 7, 19892 did the 0900 81, 27644 the 0905 41 and 18424 the 0910 9A.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on February 15, 2019, 01:54:51 PM
On Wednesday after working from home I did 37432 into town on the 9 and returned home with 37437 on the 1830 81. Buses noted from my vantage point were:

1 - 34830
2 - 18419, 19698, 37431 (to Flitwick)
4 - 34832, 36935
5 - 18423, 18424, 37437
9 - 27644, 36045, 37432
9A - 19892, 19893
9B - 18336, 19701, 19889, 27644
50 - 39684
51 - 37435
53 - 19698, 37434
81 - 19888, 34428, 34828, 37437
W7 - 28632, 53702, 53705, 53708

Thursday I left a bit later to cover the 0854 9B which was only 3 late with 19701 and 374333 did the 0911 6. Other stuff viewed were 37437 on a 73, 34828 on a 3, 18419 on a 53, 19699 on the 0900 81, 27642 on the 0905 41, 18424 on the 0910 9A and 27644 on the 0915 73. I left late from the office and covered the inbound 50 which produced winner 39681 which then went on to form the 1810 50 back whilst I did the 1810 9A with 34428.

This morning I covered the same two services as yesterday which yielded 19892 on the 9B and 37438 on the 0911 6. Others viewed were 18419 and 18424 on 1's, 37431 on a 2, 37437 on a 53, 27646 on the 0905 41, 19700 on the 0915 51 and 34424 on the 0915 73.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on February 18, 2019, 01:10:44 PM
My buses home on Friday were 37433 on the 6 and 37436 on the 9. 37433 may not be a Coast Hopper vehicle but it still has a Coast Hopper pic inside it which appears to have been overlooked. Another alien being on the W7 was 37059.

Before I headed into London on Saturday I did 19892 into  town on the first 73 and observed the following over breakfast:
1 - 19698, 19704
2 - 19890
3/7 - 48024, 48031, 48036
4 - 34828, 48025
5 - 37437
8 - 48023
9 - 19699, 27645
9A - 19706
9B - 18419, 34428
50 - 18104
51 - 19699
53 - 34825, 34833, 36936, 37435
73 - 19892, 37433

This morning we had the unwelcome return of the school traffic and observing the bottleneck of road rats prompted me to walk into town. I was just entering the town centre when the 0839 trio of buses passed led by 19891 on the 15 late 9B, 19889 on the 81 and 36935 on the 0839 9. Definitely back to normal today.

I was then treated to a route 6 farce when it was decided 27523 was going nowhere occupying the 6 bay so there was no 0859. 34830 duly arrived on a 6 but was terminated and 34829 arrived on another 6 outside Iceland. One chap was duly obliged to park up 27523 and then do the same with 34830. Whilst the game of shunting buses ensued 27642 arrived on a 73 but was unusually diverted into the Brickhill bay to form a 6. In my view it would have made sense to send 34829 into the bay first to pick us pesky passengers up to get to work. But no, in time honoured tradition, 34829 headed off towards Union St as a 6 completely devoid of any patrons whilst we waited for them to sort themselves out as to exactly what bus would rescue us from our misery. At 0915 I had all I  could take and got on 18424 on the 0915 51 and walked to the office from Sainsburys. I can only conclude that 34829 was the 0859 and 27642 the 0911 both late and resulting in the usual one empty bus departure to put everyone on the second departure.

Other stuff noted were 37112 on the W7 which I last saw in Carlisle whilst bashing B10's and Oly's, 18419 did the 0840 9B, 18336 the 0848 1, 19705 the 0910 9A and 37433 the 0915 73. More odds and sods noted were 34828 on a 3, 27645 on a 41, 37432 on a 2 and 34424 on a 73.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: SteveHFC on February 18, 2019, 04:18:03 PM
27523 spotted in Milton Keynes about to depart from the station on the 1600 departure on the 99 to Luton. Obviously a lack of serviceable coaches available, which seems to have been common of late on the 99 again. Seeing more buses on the route than coaches (don't use it anymore - have been driving into MK for work for the past couple of years).
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on February 20, 2019, 06:09:40 PM
The 1740 9B home on Monday was 34828 to annoy me but at least yesterday it was 19889 which was an improvement.

Working from home today but an hour in town earlier produced the following after I did 37437 on the 9:

1 - 18336, 18424, 19705, 19893, 37436
2 - 18419 (1539 to Flitwick), 27646, 37434
3 - 48034
4 - 34428
5/6 - 27520, 27523, 27647, 34828, 36045, 36936, 36937
7 - 48023
9 - 34830, 37437
9A - 18423, 19703, 19893
9B - 19706, 19889
10 - 48033, 48036
41 - 19890 (1605 to Northampton), 34829,  37432
50 - 19108 (1532)
51 - 19889, 37433
53 - 19699, 27521, 34825, 37439
73 - 19698, 19701
81 - 19700, 34832
X5 - 19891 (1541 to Cambridge)
School 6 (1545) - 19704
828 - 19892
830 - 19706

The best bus to be seen was P422 KSX on a school run but I had to make do with 19700 home on the 81.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on February 22, 2019, 02:16:00 PM
18336 took me home yesterday first on the 51 and then on the 1810 9A but I had to get off in-between runs for the driver change. Today 18424 was on the 9B taking me into town on the 0854 and was only 3 minutes late. All the good work was undone by the 0923 6 failing to show and then when it finally appeared at 0937 it was alongside the 0935 6 so the 0923 was caped. 37432 departed 5 minutes late meaning I had spent 27 minutes watching lots of 6's arriving from Brickhill to form 5's but nothing appearing the other way. How often have I witnessed this garbage? It is high time route 6 stopped interworking with the 5 and became a self contained route like the 53. I was a whopping 17 minutes late for work today and it taught me a lesson for not doing the 0915 51 with 18424.

The time wasted allowed me to view the following buses in the salubrious bus station:
1- 18419 (0936), 27643
2 - 19700, 19890, 37434 (0939 to Flitwick)
5 - 37432, 37437
7 - 34829
9 - 34428
9A - 18423, 19699 (0910)
9B - 18336 (0940)
41 - 34828, 37433
50 - 15455 (0932)
51 - 18336, 18424 (0915), 19700
53 - 19703, 36937, 37435
73 - 37431 (0915)
X5 - 19701 (terminated in Luton bay at 0929 with X5 Bedford displayed so assume it was 0810 from Cambridge)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on March 11, 2019, 06:00:53 PM
Optare Solo SR 48034 (YJ66ASV) is the latest repaint out of Coast hopper livery. All of the type have now been repainted.
Enviro 200 MMC's 37431/32/34/37/39 (SN16OPV/W/Z/RG/J) remain in coast hopper livery. Although one of the MMC's has gone to Chesterfield for repaint. I cant remember which one it was annoyingly.

I can confirm Steven knight Media's report that training Darts 34421/22 (KV53EYX/Y) have come to Bedford and are both in service whilst Network Rail demolish Bromham road bridge for the Midland Mainline electrification.
As a result of the road closure. The X5 is now using Ampthill Road towards Milton Keynes then joining the A421. The 41 is using Clapham road then the western bypass towards Northampton. Routes 6, 50 and 51 are delayed as a result of extra traffic on Clapham road
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Julia_Hayward on March 11, 2019, 07:50:45 PM
Today was an utter shitshow on the X5. Usual 2h35 journey in in the morning, too much traffic. In the evening the 1740 from Parkside left 30 late after problems in Bicester; headlights were going on and off all the way down the A428 and the driver declared it a failure in the layby at Caxton Gibbet. The 1840 was next to turn up and pulled up behind us, but only had five free seats. While this was happening the 1810 sailed past. So we were eventually rescued by the late-running 1910, with luck we'll be in Eaton Socon around 20.10.

I quit my job today. Four years of this have finally broken me.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on March 11, 2019, 08:42:05 PM
Today was an utter shitshow on the X5. Usual 2h35 journey in in the morning, too much traffic. In the evening the 1740 from Parkside left 30 late after problems in Bicester; headlights were going on and off all the way down the A428 and the driver declared it a failure in the layby at Caxton Gibbet. The 1840 was next to turn up and pulled up behind us, but only had five free seats. While this was happening the 1810 sailed past. So we were eventually rescued by the late-running 1910, with luck we'll be in Eaton Socon around 20.10.

I quit my job today. Four years of this have finally broken me.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Those Elites are the worst coaches Bedford have ever had! They don't need modifying. They need replacing.
Personally I think Stagecoach need to look at other options instead of going for tried and trusted Volvo next time the X5 gets new coaches.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on March 17, 2019, 03:05:16 PM
On the A422 today, somewhere around Astwood, when I spotted a westbound X5. An unidentified coach in the colour-shade known s 'dealer white'.

Any info on this?

Later, at Eaton Socon, following the bog-standard 'decker replacement eastbound int5o St Neots.

Intriguingly, Stagecoach East tell us that they do not accept the Cambridgeshire County Council cross-operator 'Mulutibus' ticket on the X5 "because it is a 'premium' service."  ::)

Don't laugh too loud, Julia_Hayward (http://www.atvbf.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=68)!
 
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on March 17, 2019, 03:22:16 PM
On the A422 today, somewhere around Astwood, when I spotted a westbound X5. An unidentified coach in the colour-shade known s 'dealer white'.

Any info on this?

Later, at Eaton Socon, following the bog-standard 'decker replacement eastbound int5o St Neots.

Intriguingly, Stagecoach East tell us that they do not accept the Cambridgeshire County Council cross-operator 'Mulutibus' ticket on the X5 "because it is a 'premium' service."  ::)

Don't laugh too loud, Julia_Hayward (http://www.atvbf.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=68)!


That'll be Volvo B9R SB12NMZ which has been given fleet number 80041 according to Steven Knight Media. This is on loan to cover for the useless B11R's that are going one by one to Volvo in Ely for 'modifications'.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Julia_Hayward on March 18, 2019, 08:32:18 AM
I'm not sure if the X5 drivers are mistakenly trying to be eco-friendly, but this morning's one has been religiously turning the engine off when sat stationary. Fifteen times and counting, which is a measure of how bad the A428 is this morning. I'm sure that can't be good for a long-distance coach's engine? (Left Loves Farm 0707, just left Madingley at 0828, where - hurrah - we had door problems. I think he's overridden the interlock as we're driving along with a steady alarm going off. And the "bus stopping" light isn't working, so people are repeatedly working the buzzer!).
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: John Wakefield on March 18, 2019, 09:39:10 AM
Dont the engines in Euro6 engined buses shut off automatically if vehicle is stationary for more that a minute or so
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on March 18, 2019, 11:39:33 AM
Dunno about the X5 coaches, but the latest P&R fleet all cut out automatically with stop-start technology.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Julia_Hayward on March 18, 2019, 02:27:34 PM
The X5's don't, unless it's been introduced in the recent modifications - this is the first time it's happened that I'm aware of.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: dwarfer1979 on March 19, 2019, 08:27:18 AM
Dont the engines in Euro6 engined buses shut off automatically if vehicle is stationary for more that a minute or so
Most modern vehicles, and that goes back to Euro 5 & even earlier vehicles, have anti-idle systems that shut down the engine if it is sat idling for several minutes (I think around 5-minutes).  Differently ADL have developed a stop-start system that shuts the engine down when the handbrake is applied (and the door is open I think, assuming specific criteria have been met and it hasn't done it a set number of times in the last hour already), few manufacturers offer this as it puts greater pressure on certain systems and needs a beefed up starter motor (I know Optare for instance can't offer it at this time).  I don't think it is normal to have either on coaches, though the anti-idle may be on the newer models there is unlikely to be suitable starter motors available for coaches to have stop-start, so I suspect it would have been the driver on his own.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Steven Knight Media on March 20, 2019, 11:52:03 AM
Does anyone know where E200 36934 is currently located?
Thanks,
Steve
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on March 20, 2019, 01:07:04 PM
Does anyone know where E200 36934 is currently located?
Thanks,
Steve

Last I saw of it it was at Buckdale. I don't know if it's still there
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on March 21, 2019, 01:14:06 PM
36934 disappeared some time ago from St John's station.

According to the bus tracker I was gazing at yesterday it showed 19890 running 80 late on an 81 to Bedford which is some achievement for a 55 minute journey. However, the tracker also showed it going down Ampthill Road which is not the correct route so I can only conclude it was not actually in service irrespective of what the tracker was showing. Still, a 9A from Hitchin with 19892 was only 38 minutes late by comparison and was overtaken by the 9B supposedly 30 minutes behind it in the shape of 19702. All part of the wonderful service we now have inflicted on us since the turn of the year changes to extend our misery out to Hitchin. Oddly 18423 and 18419 were viewed running empty down London Road heading into town in the morning about 5 minutes apart. Presumably another farce somewhere...

Recent sightings on the 50 have produced 11128, 11134, 18101, 18104, 39681 and 39689. Since returning to Bedford 34421 has eluded me so I have had to make do with a few runs on 34422.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on March 21, 2019, 01:19:54 PM
36934 disappeared some time ago from St John's station.

According to the bus tracker I was gazing at yesterday it showed 19890 running 80 late on an 81 to Bedford which is some achievement for a 55 minute journey. However, the tracker also showed it going down Ampthill Road which is not the correct route so I can only conclude it was not actually in service irrespective of what the tracker was showing. Still, a 9A from Hitchin with 19892 was only 38 minutes late by comparison and was overtaken by the 9B supposedly 30 minutes behind it in the shape of 19702. All part of the wonderful service we now have inflicted on us since the turn of the year changes to extend our misery out to Hitchin. Oddly 18423 and 18419 were viewed running empty down London Road heading into town in the morning about 5 minutes apart. Presumably another farce somewhere...

Recent sightings on the 50 have produced 11128, 11134, 18101, 18104, 39681 and 39689. Since returning to Bedford 34421 has eluded me so I have had to make do with a few runs on 34422.

Be quick 34421/22 are going back to Peterborough and Cambridge imminently
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: rm clippie on March 23, 2019, 10:58:28 AM
Noted today enviro 400 15637/15641 parked at Bedford garage (ex stagecoach west)
Are these buses for Bedford?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: skyLink on March 23, 2019, 05:34:25 PM
Noted today enviro 400 15637/15641 parked at Bedford garage (ex stagecoach west)
Are these buses for Bedford?


There was a post on this cracking blog saying how many was due. https://www.stevenknightmedia.com/fleet-news-ramblings/march-18th-2019-1745-london-enviro-200s-for-stagecoach-in-bedford-and-former-norfolk-green-optare-tempos-sold
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on March 25, 2019, 01:51:45 PM
I assume the six plastic, rattling Gloucester rejects arriving will see the end of our four tridents and therefore is nothing to celebrate?

My bus to Sandy on a 73 on Saturday was 34422 still with Bedford route maps inside it as if it never left. My bus home was 34831, and to annoy me, 34421 was going the other way to Biggleswade which I have still not had since its return. Spending two days on the 53 at the end of the last week, as 34421 did, is of no use to me. Also noted on Saturday was 18101 on the first 50 to Kettering and 18419 arrived on a 9 and went out as a 9B. Last Friday 18423 went to Northampton on a 41 which is the first trident I have seen go there for quite some time but being stuck at work it could happen every day for all I know. 18419 had the honour of doing the 1545 6 brat-ex also on Friday whilst 18336 and 18424 did 1's.

This morning 18424 was on the 0910 9A but for how much longer?

I was under the impression the X5 services were going down Ampthill Road to MK but apparently not. In the past week or so the 1740 X5 short to MK has passed me beavering down Clapham Road with the likes of 19888, 19701 and 19699 whilst I have been on the 6/51 from work.

In case anyone is remotely interested, I am advised 18449 did the 1120 28 Inverness to Dingwall this morning.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on March 25, 2019, 08:35:36 PM
15641 (SF10CCY) is parked in the yard next to the Volvo B10M trainers at Bedford. These Scanias are supposed to be better for interurban work. Sorry MIB but they'd be ideal for the 9A/B. My friend at Bedford depot tells me the Tridents are staying and these Scanias will displace Darts
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on March 26, 2019, 12:51:42 PM
Well at least that is something if the tridents are staying. As for the new arrivals it matters not one jot what type they use on the 9A and 9B as timekeeping will still be rubbish on working mornings. I gave up on the usual 15 late 0725 from Hitchin and went for the 0909 9 with 34428 but I couldn't get on as it was full and standing and mothers with buggies squashed in at the front after leaving their kids at school. The reason for the crush became evident when 19699 graced us with its presence on the 0755 from Hitchin running 20 minutes late when it should be 15 minutes ahead of 34428. As I have said before, a chimp could work out that if the 9's can't be on time from Shortstown, that making us suffer by extending them to Hitchin was only going to make matters a lot worse. This timetable is garbage for working people in the morning but no doubt the brainchild of this travesty, who probably doesn't ever travel the route, will think it is working well in their parallel universe.

It didn't help either that my 0935 6 to work arrived late with 36935 only for the driver to take exception to it increasing my lateness waiting for him to swap the bus with 27523. I knew I should have jumped on 15401 on the 0932 50. I see 34421 is on the 1's so might be a chance to reel it in to the hospital and walk home after work. This follows on from the use of 34422 and 36936 all day yesterday. Perhaps the new rejects can get that route fully back to double deck as promised when route 2 was cut back.

There again, maybe the six will spend their days on the X5 where it appears the Elite's have been consigned to the bin. 19703, 19704 and 19706 were all viewed on the X5 to Cambridge yesterday and three consecutive departures today to Cambridge produced 19706, 19889 and 19890. For good measure 19893 was coming in from Cambridge so that's at least four out and counting...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Julia_Hayward on March 26, 2019, 10:33:15 PM
I've been asking for interurban spec Scanias to replace the E40Ds on the X5 for some time. Shame it didn't happen before I got a job offer! :)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: tomfrombedford on March 27, 2019, 12:05:11 PM
Any news on the 2 ex-London e200’s that were mentioned on the bus rambling website? They’re shorts so could they be for solo routes?
Also has anybody noticed that the 5/6 routes aren’t interworked anymore?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Habbinman on March 27, 2019, 07:21:58 PM
Sorry to disappoint about you thinking Bedford are having these Scanias, but (Courtesy of Steve Knight)

27/3/2019

Stagecoach East
Short Enviro 200s 36301 and 36302 are currently being prepared for service at Bedford and will enter service shortly whilst work to prepare Dart SLF 34425 for service at Peterborough is also nearing completion.
Operation of the Cambridge Citi5 service transfers from Fenstanton to Cambridge this weekend with Tridents 18411/12/13/14/15 also moving from Fenstanton to Cambridge. However, the Tridents are not expected to stay once all of the six Scania/Enviro 400s being transferred from Stagecoach West (15637/39/40/41/42/43) have entered service at Cambridge. Look out for one of these Scanias being painted in other than corporate livery.
Trident 18335 is confirmed as being part of the Go West Travel (Long Sutton) allocation, whilst another vehicle transferred from Cambridge to Long Sutton is Enviro 400 19047. Enviro 400s 19694 and 19696 have moved from Long Sutton to Cambridge.
Also due to be transferred from Cambridge to Long Sutton are Tridents 18338/44 and 18416/18 along with Enviro 400s 19017/68. Moving the other way will be six Enviro 400s, 19693/95 along with the four former Norfolk Green examples 10052/53/54/55. (Our images show 19017 at Cambridge depot earlier today and 10054 operating in Peterborough, with an ‘On Hire to Cambus Limited’ notice in the first nearside window yesterday morning. Note that 10054, along with 10052/53/55 has tinted glazing.
Now out of use at Cambridge is Volvo B10M training bus 52440 whilst further vehicles sold are Optare Solos 47659, 47900, 47902 and 47903.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Habbinman on March 27, 2019, 07:27:27 PM
Sorry to disappoint about you thinking Bedford are having these Scanias, but (Courtesy of Steve Knight)

27/3/2019

Stagecoach East
Short Enviro 200s 36301 and 36302 are currently being prepared for service at Bedford and will enter service shortly whilst work to prepare Dart SLF 34425 for service at Peterborough is also nearing completion.
Operation of the Cambridge Citi5 service transfers from Fenstanton to Cambridge this weekend with Tridents 18411/12/13/14/15 also moving from Fenstanton to Cambridge. However, the Tridents are not expected to stay once all of the six Scania/Enviro 400s being transferred from Stagecoach West (15637/39/40/41/42/43) have entered service at Cambridge. Look out for one of these Scanias being painted in other than corporate livery.
Trident 18335 is confirmed as being part of the Go West Travel (Long Sutton) allocation, whilst another vehicle transferred from Cambridge to Long Sutton is Enviro 400 19047. Enviro 400s 19694 and 19696 have moved from Long Sutton to Cambridge.
Also due to be transferred from Cambridge to Long Sutton are Tridents 18338/44 and 18416/18 along with Enviro 400s 19017/68. Moving the other way will be six Enviro 400s, 19693/95 along with the four former Norfolk Green examples 10052/53/54/55. (Our images show 19017 at Cambridge depot earlier today and 10054 operating in Peterborough, with an ‘On Hire to Cambus Limited’ notice in the first nearside window yesterday morning. Note that 10054, along with 10052/53/55 has tinted glazing.
Now out of use at Cambridge is Volvo B10M training bus 52440 whilst further vehicles sold are Optare Solos 47659, 47900, 47902 and 47903.
As Cambridge & Fenstanton have had Scanias so far, it makes sense for these buses from West to go there. Otherwise it would mean Bedford fitters having type training & being equipped with Scania spares, which so far they have not been required to have ?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on March 27, 2019, 08:28:05 PM
As Cambridge & Fenstanton have had Scanias so far, it makes sense for these buses from West to go there. Otherwise it would mean Bedford fitters having type training & being equipped with Scania spares, which so far they have not been required to have ?

Thanks for that. Lesson learned. Never take a drivers word as gospel. Friend or not
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: rm clippie on March 27, 2019, 08:59:12 PM
could Bedford end up with the 5 tridents off the citi 5,
and cascade 5 darts to fenstanton to replace 04  darts.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Grahamk748 on March 27, 2019, 09:29:54 PM
I think I passed one of the X5 coaches on suspended tow heading up the M1 near the A14 junction this evening, couldn’t be 100%sure as it was dark and I was driving. I take it it was going to Plaxton at Anston?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on March 27, 2019, 09:35:16 PM
could Bedford end up with the 5 tridents off the citi 5,
and cascade 5 darts to fenstanton to replace 04  darts.
Those Tridents were all at Bedford for a while before 19888-93 were delivered in new in 2011.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Julia_Hayward on March 27, 2019, 10:22:13 PM
10054 in central Cambridge this evening.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on March 28, 2019, 01:18:51 PM
Hang about here was it not the Steve Knight site that reported the West vehicles were coming to Bedford and that one had arrived on 24 March? Perhaps we won't be getting anymore double decks and it will be just single deckers to replace the Darts?

I finally managed to get 34421 on Tuesday on the 1748 1 to get home and that also has a Bedford route map inside like 34422. As we backed out on the 1 with 34421, there was a coming together of 27521 which was parking up and 37432 on a departing 73. It comes as no surprise to me to see one vehicle reversing into another as I have witnessed several near misses from all this reversing out of bays. They could do with a man with a whistle guiding reversing buses out of bays like they did at Canterbury in the step entrance days. Other departures saw 18104 on the 1712 50, 18419 on a 53 and 19706 on the 1740 X5 to MK.

I stayed at home to work yesterday and had a look at the bus site that shows what vehicles are out but it appeared there was a glitch in the system as only routes 5 and X5 showed any vehicles in service. Quite what happened to all the other routes where all vehicles were missing is anyone's guess. Absolutely no buses were showing up for the 9 routes past my home. Clearly there was a problem as a timewarp affected the vehicle allocations with Leyland Olympians 14341, 14345 and 14347 reported on the X5. Wherever that parallel universe is I want to go there!

Back in the real world this morning it felt like I had slipped back in time as 19699 was again on the 0755 9B, just like Tuesday, but at least this time it was only 4 minutes late. 34421 was on 2's, 18419 did the 0725 9A from Hitchin, 18336 the 0910 9A to Hitchin and 18101 the 0932 50.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on March 29, 2019, 01:15:51 PM
The X5 to Cambridge was going well yesterday afternoon  with 19889 and 19701 on consecutive departures with 19698 coming in from Cambridge. 18104 was my bus from work on the 50 into town and 27643 and 27647 were knocking around on 1's.

This morning 34421 was on a 5 and 34422 on a 2 still going strong. 19705 made a change from a single deck on the Shortstown 9. Also out is 53613 on 81's. 18424, 18423 and 18419 are all on 1's alongside 34825 whilst 19703 was viewed arriving at 0926 on an X5 from Cambridge. 15455, 19083 and gold 11133 are all on the 50 route, the latter being a winner.

I certainly welcome the fact that route 6 appears to have become standalone and not interworking with the 5 which was a thorn in my side for many years brought about by buses going awol on the much longer 5 route and a string of arrivals on the 6 then going onto the 5 leaving Brickhill passengers with no buses for long periods. I do hope this arrangement will now stay and that they won't pull another stroke like making the 6 interwork with the 1 at some future date. It didn't work when the 6 and 9 were combined either so I expect no more of this nonsence to afflict the 6.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Julia_Hayward on March 29, 2019, 06:11:39 PM
This morning three back to back Enviros on the X5, 19705, 19702, 19892. Clearly door faults are infectious on this route as only one of 19892's would open...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: HughT on March 29, 2019, 10:17:25 PM
This morning three back to back Enviros on the X5, 19705, 19702, 19892. Clearly door faults are infectious on this route as only one of 19892's would open...

I wonder if one or more of those are deliberate, to provide more capacity during the rush hour? (Depends what time you spotted them, of course.) Certainly, any time I've been to catch the 0910 ex-Cambridge it's been an Enviro rather than a Volvo.  That would have been on the service due to arrive at Parkside around 0840, I guess.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Julia_Hayward on March 30, 2019, 07:21:51 AM
There are certainly specific duties that are very likely to be Enviros - the 0637 eastbound from Eaton Socon (the one that returns to Bedford then goes off duty) is the first to get subbed, then the 0722 (the later of the two I sometimes catch). I would be surprised if it's for capacity as I haven't been on a full Volvo in the morning peak for a long time - most of the time I have a double seat to myself.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Julia_Hayward on April 02, 2019, 09:01:35 AM
53615 expired at St Neots market square this morning on the 0630 ex Bedford, leaving everyone to stand around waiting for the E400 half an hour later...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on April 02, 2019, 01:12:47 PM
At least four E400's viewed on the X5 this morning with 19704 and 19890 heading to Cambridge and 19891 and 19706 coming the other way.

18423 was on route 1 and then continued as a 6 on arrival so I hope my fears expressed the other day do not come to fruition about those routes interworking. 18336 is still on the 1 whilst 18424 did the 0840 9B. I have not seen 18419 yet this week but 18108 departed 20 late on the 1232 50 during my lunch break. I could get 34421 again today as it is one of the three vehicles circling the 6. Yesterday I had 19700 from work on the 6 but then it went onto a 5 so I am not quite sure what is happening with the diagrams.

53615 may have expired on the X5 this morning but it was trusted to do a later 81 whilst 27522 was pottering about on a 99 before it went empty to Bedford garage.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Julia_Hayward on April 03, 2019, 08:49:59 PM
Another 546xx Volvo dumped in the Caxton Gibbet layby this evening - fortunately no passengers on it.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on April 03, 2019, 08:54:02 PM
Another 546xx Volvo dumped in the Caxton Gibbet layby this evening - fortunately no passengers on it.

Thank you for this, Julia.

I should be meeting with Michelle Harreaves towards the end of this month or in early May and intend to raise the question of the reliability of the X5 fleet.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on April 03, 2019, 10:06:32 PM
Thank you for this, Julia.

I should be meeting with Michelle Harreaves towards the end of this month or in early May and intend to raise the question of the reliability of the X5 fleet.

Those Volvo B11R's have been a disaster since day one. Stagecoach should replace them ASAP
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on April 04, 2019, 01:43:19 PM
At least four E400's a day seems to be the norm at present with the X5 with 19700 and 19701 heading to  Cambridge and 19699 and 19893 heading our way this afternoon.

Yesterday 18101 did the 1532 50 and 18104 was on the 1712. 18424 did the 1630 81 whilst 18336 was still glued to the 1 and is currently on the route again.

I went home on Tuesday with 18424 on the 1740 9B and viewed 37049 on the W7. 19890 was on the short X5 to MK station.

Still no trace of 18419...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on April 04, 2019, 06:58:54 PM
There's been a clear out of withdrawn vehicles at Bedford depot. All the MAN's, President bodied Tridents and Darts are gone. Still to be collected are Tridents 18109 (KX04RVL) and 18417 (AE06GZO) and Solos 47354 (AE06TWN), 47435 (YN53SVV) and 47436 (YJ56AOL).
18109, 18417 and 47436 are all engineless. So almost certainly for scrap. 47354 and 47435 were still in service only a few weeks ago and still look complete.

Training Darts 34421/22 (KV53EYX/Y) continue to be used in service. No sign of Ex London Enviro 200's 36301/02 (LX56DZU/V) as yet


Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on April 05, 2019, 05:08:22 PM
My vehicles to get home yesterday were 15402 on the 50 and 19888 on the 1810 9A. 18424 DID THE 1715 73, and 19893 was on the short X5 to MK station. Another alien was on the W7 in the shape of 27682. Earlier in the day a gold vehicle was holed up on the garage.

34421 was my bus to work this morning on the 6. 18424 was on 53's, 18336 and 18423 on 1's, 37438 on a 7, 34424 on a 10 and dud 39684 produced for the 0932 50. I gather winner 11126 is on the 1712 50 but I won't be able to make that.

19699 and 19893 have again been out on Cambridge X5's.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: David Hancock on April 05, 2019, 06:58:23 PM
MIB, The coaches that were on the W7 have /will  be transfered away so expect any single deck from Northampton on them. Rumour has it they have gone to East Kent.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: skyLink on April 05, 2019, 08:04:30 PM
MIB, The coaches that were on the W7 have /will  be transfered away so expect any single deck from Northampton on them. Rumour has it they have gone to East Kent.

Believe it's h- bay depot for new express service
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on April 05, 2019, 08:51:16 PM
MIB, The coaches that were on the W7 have /will  be transfered away so expect any single deck from Northampton on them. Rumour has it they have gone to East Kent.
It does seem strange that Stagecoach chose to operate the service from Northampton depot. Surely it would make better sense to operate it from Bedford or Kettering to reduce dead mileage. I know Kettering depot is a little tight for space. But Bedford has plenty of room for parking the extra vehicles. Especially now the majority of the withdrawn vehicles have gone for scrap
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: skyLink on April 05, 2019, 09:46:48 PM
Probably at Northampton depot as they seem to look after buses unlike Bedford it seems
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on April 05, 2019, 10:34:48 PM
Probably at Northampton depot as they seem to look after buses unlike Bedford it seems

Can you provide any evidence to support that claim?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on April 07, 2019, 04:00:11 PM
More double-deck rubbish on the X5, today. Goodness knows why Bedford can’t borrow a few cascaded ex-busway ’deckers from Cambridge/Fenstanton. At least passengers would have some quality seating, Wi-Fi and phone charging.

Incidentally, new MD, Michelle Hargreaves, spends Tuesdays Wednesdays and Thursdays at Cowley Road. Does anybody know if Mondays and Fridays are spent at Bedford, trying to sort out the problems there?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on April 07, 2019, 05:49:00 PM
More double-deck rubbish on the X5, today. Goodness knows why Bedford can’t borrow a few cascaded ex-busway ’deckers from Cambridge/Fenstanton. At least passengers would have some quality seating, Wi-Fi and phone charging.

Incidentally, new MD, Michelle Hargreaves, spends Tuesdays Wednesdays and Thursdays at Cowley Road. Does anybody know if Mondays and Fridays are spent at Bedford, trying to sort out the problems there?

The problems would be sorted if the Elites were withdrawn and replaced
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on April 07, 2019, 06:09:40 PM
The problems would be sorted if the Elites were withdrawn and replaced

Replaced with high-quality ‘gold’-standard double deckers, for my preference.

Apart from the great views from the top deck, another advantage of such vehicles would be that they could return to Cambridge bus station, instead of terminating out in the middle of nowhere on the edge of Parkers Piece.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: skyLink on April 07, 2019, 07:54:08 PM
Replaced with high-quality ‘gold’-standard double deckers, for my preference.

Apart from the great views from the top deck, another advantage of such vehicles would be that they could return to Cambridge bus station, instead of terminating out in the middle of nowhere on the edge of Parkers Piece.

Could not agree more as much as I loved the b10s especially ksu461 back in the day on the x5 I believe that Scania E400 are whats needed or the adl 400s. There doing wonders for the x1 in Norfolk. Think the x5 livery would look great on them too
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: chopper on April 07, 2019, 08:12:43 PM
I believe that there is a low bridge in the Buckingham/Bicester area which precludes the use of double deckers through to Oxford. I stand to be corrected though.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on April 07, 2019, 08:17:28 PM
I believe that there is a low bridge in the Buckingham/Bicester area which precludes the use of double deckers through to Oxford. I stand to be corrected though.

I wouldn’t be standing if there’s a low bridge looming!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on April 07, 2019, 10:56:36 PM
I believe that there is a low bridge in the Buckingham/Bicester area which precludes the use of double deckers through to Oxford. I stand to be corrected though.

I have been on a few Volvo Olympians all the way to Oxford. Never an Enviro 400 though
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Coast_Hopper on April 07, 2019, 11:05:14 PM
I believe that there is a low bridge in the Buckingham/Bicester area which precludes the use of double deckers through to Oxford. I stand to be corrected though.

Yes its at Finmere just past Buckingham, its on the road towards Bicester,

The bridge in question is on the old Grand Central Railway, there is track laid in that area and used by enthusiasts, a few miles heading back to Buckingham the line is in use as far as Calvert for the London bin trains, there was at last time of looking 2 bin trains a.day

Below is the bridge in question at Finmere Station
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on April 08, 2019, 12:42:26 AM
Yes its at Finmere just past Buckingham, its on the road towards Bicester,

The bridge in question is on the old Grand Central Railway, there is track laid in that area and used by enthusiasts, a few miles heading back to Buckingham the line is in use as far as Calvert for the London bin trains, there was at last time of looking 2 bin trains a.day

Below is the bridge in question at Finmere Station

15' 3" is plenty high enough for a decker to pass under. Especially as there's no high bridge deckers allocated to Bedford due to low bridges on some routes
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Coast_Hopper on April 08, 2019, 12:55:46 AM
Enviro 400 is 14m 1ft in height
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Julia_Hayward on April 08, 2019, 06:34:00 AM
St Neots station bridge is 14'9", quite a bit lower than Finmere, and while it may seem alarmingly close to first-time passengers (well, it did to me the first time!) it clearly has no problem with deckers.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: tomfrombedford on April 08, 2019, 12:11:17 PM
Is there any reason why the alx400’s aren’t used on the X5?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Habbinman on April 08, 2019, 02:28:35 PM
Is there any reason why the alx400’s aren’t used on the X5?
Because of their mileage range on a full diesel tank would be very limited ! Could only possibly schedule them for no more than 2 round trips !
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Habbinman on April 08, 2019, 02:38:34 PM
Yes its at Finmere just past Buckingham, its on the road towards Bicester,

The bridge in question is on the old Grand Central Railway, there is track laid in that area and used by enthusiasts, a few miles heading back to Buckingham the line is in use as far as Calvert for the London bin trains, there was at last time of looking 2 bin trains a.day

Below is the bridge in question at Finmere Station
I've been under that bridge with both an Enviro 400 and an Elite I decker. The Elite I we borrowed from Megabus for gauging trials, but it wasn't favoured because of its seating arrangement, being unsuited to multi-stopping on X5 & with elderly people requiring more downstairs seating if they are only going 2 stops across St Neots etc Also, the luggage area is needed more as under-lockers on X5, with carrying bikes/shopping trolleys.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Habbinman on April 08, 2019, 02:44:29 PM
Can you provide any evidence to support that claim?

But, travelling around the Stagecoach Group, you need to ask the question "Why is it only Bedford who are having trouble with these Elites ??"  I haven't heard of any problems at other depots ?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on April 08, 2019, 06:20:08 PM
But, travelling around the Stagecoach Group, you need to ask the question "Why is it only Bedford who are having trouble with these Elites ??"  I haven't heard of any problems at other depots ?

Something on Michelle H's list?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on April 08, 2019, 06:48:46 PM
But, travelling around the Stagecoach Group, you need to ask the question "Why is it only Bedford who are having trouble with these Elites ??"  I haven't heard of any problems at other depots ?

I can't comment on other Stagecoach depots. The main issue Bedford have with the Elites seems to be the doors. It has to be said that the X5 between Bedford and Cambridge is more of a local bus service than an express service. So the doors would be opened and closed a lot more than if they were being used on Megabus services for example. Although the previous batch of Panthers (6 of which are still there) and the good old B10M's never had such issues.

Hopefully whatever modifications they're having at Volvo in Ely sorts them out. Then the Enviro 400's can go back on the 1 and 9 where they're supposed to be
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Coast_Hopper on April 09, 2019, 12:15:23 PM
Because of their mileage range on a full diesel tank would be very limited ! Could only possibly schedule them for no more than 2 round trips !

ALX400s can do more than a 2 hour round trip, used to travel from Kings Lynn to Spalding and thats 2 hours each way, never filled up at Spalding, neither did it fill up at Lynn when it returned
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Coast_Hopper on April 09, 2019, 12:18:18 PM
Am I right in thinking the route changed on the X5 didnt it used to go to Aylsbury before Oxford rather than Bicester
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on April 09, 2019, 02:18:32 PM
I have been on a few Volvo Olympians all the way to Oxford. Never an Enviro 400 though

Same here, as those who read my piffle last year will note I mentioned having 16593 to Oxford and back in the snow on an X5. 14000 also did the 2140 Bedford to Oxford and back one Saturday night. I also had 16209, again in the snow, from MK station which arrived in from Oxford so no issues with any bridges. 19889 and 19890 were on the X5 to Cambridge earlier today.

Yesterday I missed winner 11126 out again on the 0832 50. 18424 was on the 53 and 18336, 18419 (rediscovered) and 18423 were on 1's.

Today I missed winner 11126 out again on the 0832 50. 18424 was on the 53 and 18336, 18419 and 18423 were on 1's.

It would appear I have become stuck in my Carnival of Monsters time loop again where everything is repeated over and over again.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on April 09, 2019, 07:07:58 PM
Withdrawn Tridents 18109 (KX04RVL) and 18417 (AE06GZO) have now been towed away for scrap.
Withdrawn vehicles left at Bedford are Optare Solos 47354 (AE06TWN), 47435 (YN53SVV) and 47436 (YJ56AOL).
47354 is due to go to Ensignbus shortly. I believe 47435 and 47436 are still owned by Bedford borough council although I could be wrong. 47436 has been sitting in the same place for well over a year and has been heavily cannibalised for spares
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Coast_Hopper on April 09, 2019, 11:20:37 PM
I believe 47435 and 47436 are still owned by Bedford borough council although I could be wrong. 47436 has been sitting in the same place for well over a year and has been heavily cannibalised for spares

What happens if they dont rebuild it
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Habbinman on April 10, 2019, 08:06:30 PM
Withdrawn Tridents 18109 (KX04RVL) and 18417 (AE06GZO) have now been towed away for scrap.
Withdrawn vehicles left at Bedford are Optare Solos 47354 (AE06TWN), 47435 (YN53SVV) and 47436 (YJ56AOL).
47354 is due to go to Ensignbus shortly. I believe 47435 and 47436 are still owned by Bedford borough council although I could be wrong. 47436 has been sitting in the same place for well over a year and has been heavily cannibalised for spares
The Withdrawn 47435-42 Solos at Bedford ARE still owned by Bedford CC. According to the latest Official Fleetlist, it says " Discussing with Council" Therefore, it's probably up to the Council to make a final decision on their fate ?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Habbinman on April 10, 2019, 08:09:40 PM
Am I right in thinking the route changed on the X5 didnt it used to go to Aylsbury before Oxford rather than Bicester
NO, the X5 has NEVER gone via Aylesbury.   The National Express service 747 used to go via Aylesbury, from Cambridge to Oxford & then onward to Bristol etc.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Habbinman on April 10, 2019, 08:30:23 PM
I can't comment on other Stagecoach depots. The main issue Bedford have with the Elites seems to be the doors. It has to be said that the X5 between Bedford and Cambridge is more of a local bus service than an express service. So the doors would be opened and closed a lot more than if they were being used on Megabus services for example. Although the previous batch of Panthers (6 of which are still there) and the good old B10M's never had such issues.

Hopefully whatever modifications they're having at Volvo in Ely sorts them out. Then the Enviro 400's can go back on the 1 and 9 where they're supposed to be
Any modifications the Elites are having at Volvo (Ely) will be for Engine/Chassis ONLY. Volvo's would NOT be doing anything to the front doors, as that would be ADL at Harlow or involve an ADL mobile engineer visiting Bedford.

The main trouble with Plug Doors, as on the Elite, & as I have said before, is that the closing/locking mechanism is very sensitive. If the vehicle is leaning into the gutter because of the road camber, the doors will not close correctly ! The vehicle MUST be almost completely level across the width of the front axle & the body upright !!. You see, as the door closes, it comes into the door aperture & then lifts to lock it. If the door does not close completely flush, when it then lifts, it doesn't engage the locking plates on the door frame. This can distort the natural curvature of the door, so it is out of alignment ! This then leads to the fact that if the door has not closed & locked correctly, that the gearbox goes into Disabled Mode, which the driver cannot override.  The only way to really overcome the problem, if the vehicle is leaning into the gutter, is for the driver to get out of his seat & physically guide & gently pull the door into position......it will then finally close, lift & lock...job done ! BUT, then have the drivers been trained about this ??? I bet not, as I've shown at least 3 or 4 how to overcome the problem, as I've ridden the X5, and they've sat there quite amazed how easy it is to solve !!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Habbinman on April 10, 2019, 08:46:08 PM
ALX400s can do more than a 2 hour round trip, used to travel from Kings Lynn to Spalding and thats 2 hours each way, never filled up at Spalding, neither did it fill up at Lynn when it returned
If you read it correctly, I mentioned TWO Round Trips (Not a 2 hour trip each way). The fuel tanks on ALX400s vary in capacity, with most being short range & very few long range. The X5 Cambridge to Oxford is on average a 3 hr 45 min journey each way, so Two round trips would be 15 hours !!  Therefore a Controller allocating an ALX400 to such a duty, would have to be very wary as to what the diesel tank capacity is, of any ALX400 he would possibly want to allocate ??
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on April 11, 2019, 02:21:07 PM
Not only did I miss gold winner 11126 on the 1532 50 on Wednesday but also 11127 on the 1712 50. A third miss today was 11136 on the 0832 50 as work precludes me from being around at those times of day.

18336, 18419 and 18424 were all on 1's yesterday as I worked from home but typically no sign of any gold stuff when I checked the website when I could have done something about it.

This morning I had 18336 into town on the 0730 81 from Luton after it's long service on the 1 over the last week or so came to an end. 18419 and 18424 were still on the 1's but the route managed to rustle up three E400's this morning. Only 19705 was noted on an X5 whilst 18423 did the 0840 9B and 18108 was on the 0932 50.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Julia_Hayward on April 14, 2019, 11:06:14 AM
The E40D's don't do complete round trips on the X5, through journeys tend to involve a change of vehicle onto/off of an Elite, so that the E40Ds stay up at the Cambridge end of the route. No doubt fuel tank capacity is part of it, but I also understand the E40Ds are not compatible with Oxford's LEZ. Timekeeping also suffers more on the longer run down to Oxford as the E40Ds can't keep up with the schedule.

The doors have multiple problems - I often see drivers repeatedly hammering the door-open button to make the door respond; and in places where the road camber is bad or potholes are present, the door can get stuck on the ground. The lifts are even more sensitive to being lined up badly, but they don't seem to be used much. Still, not my problem any more now I'm a London commuter!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on April 15, 2019, 01:48:58 PM
At the end of last week I think I saw 37111 on the W7 but that might have been a figment of my imagination but 28632 wasn't on Friday. I am sure the poster at the station is advertising Wi-Fi and toilets on this service so a referral to the trade descriptions act might be in order. I went home on 19889 on the 1740 9B Friday and witnessed 15405 on the 1705 50. 15401 appeared on the 1810 50 apparently.

As if by magic 19889 was on the first 9B Saturday morning to take me into town and also repeating was 15401 on the 0832 50. The 0932 50 was even worse with 35179 which passed me inbound whilst I was on the Youngs Coaches van hooligan type tri-axle vehicle on the 0915 rail replacement to Wellingborough via Turvey with its massive load of two passengers. Yes, this year I remembered the Wellingborough bus event which I forgot about last year! Arrival at Wellingborough saw a another Youngs vehicle waiting to leave for Bedford.

I assume Youngs Coaches have off loaded their olys as winner K735 ODL unexpectedly produced all weekend in service at the museum running site still in Youngs livery but apparently now with Diamond Coaches. Also out all weekend was ex Bedford 14054 and on Sunday Lawsons ex Bedford 16232 did one trip. On my way to Welly on Sunday I only viewed one Bedford departure and that was 19891 on a 53. Why was I only expecting a single decker on a Sunday? Young's K3 YCC or whatever was the vehicle not of choice from the station.

This morning 19084 and 19108 were reported on 50's with 18419 and 18423 still working 1's, 18424 on 53's and my bus to work on the 6 was 18336 which has been spinning around all day so far on the route with 19705.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on April 18, 2019, 01:49:29 PM
Visitors to Bedford on Tuesday pm on the W7 were 37109, 37041, 22838 and 22841 in that order before 37109 made a second visit. Further visitors to Bedford on Wednesday 17 April were 39680 on the 0832 50, 39682 on the 0932 50, neither of which were any good to me and later in the day, 35177 on the 1705 50, 15402 on the 1810 50 and 28633 on the W7. My buses to get home were 18424 on the 6 and 18423 on the 9B.

Today 18104 did the 0832 50, 18424 was on 1's and 18423 arrived on an 81 and then joined 34421 and 37434 on 6's instead of doing the 0900 81.

The buses tracker seems to indicate a reduction of E400 usage this week as the other week there was an average of five on the Cambridge section.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on April 23, 2019, 01:26:44 PM
My bus on the 9 into town today was 34421 whilst 34422 was on a 5. This duo don't seem to be going anywhere soon. I notice that one by one our tridents are disappearing from monitoring their movements. The only one I could find was 18419 on the 9A this morning but having viewed 18336 on a 9A and 51 along with 18424 on a 1 they didn't exist whilst looking at the tracker as they were not showing up in the bus station even though they were right in front of me. 18423 has similarly vanished from the radar. Does this mean they are on their way out as it seems a bit of a coincidence that it is just tridents not being picked up on the system?

The tracker revealed I missed winner 11128 on the 0832 50 this morning. 18101 and 18108 were on the next two 50 departures. 34827 was on a 1 but got ripped. Now the schools are back I am back to being delayed getting to work. Today's bowl out came courtesy of 34428 deciding it didn't want to perform on the 0859 6 so the fitter was called out. 36937 was stepped up at 0908 to work the late 0859 service so I opted to do 27520 on the 0911 which in itself managed to depart four minutes late.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on April 23, 2019, 04:02:45 PM
18423 has appeared this afternoon on the tracker coming in from Hitchin on a 9B which seems to be its first working of the day. It looks like 18104 has also done a 50 making three tridents from Kettering today on the route.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on April 23, 2019, 08:11:54 PM
I notice that one by one our tridents are disappearing from monitoring their movements. The only one I could find was 18419 on the 9A this morning but having viewed 18336 on a 9A and 51 along with 18424 on a 1 they didn't exist whilst looking at the tracker as they were not showing up in the bus station even though they were right in front of me. 18423 has similarly vanished from the radar. Does this mean they are on their way out as it seems a bit of a coincidence that it is just tridents not being picked up on the system?

The tracker revealed I missed winner 11128 on the 0832 50 this morning. 18101 and 18108 were on the next two 50 departures. 34827 was on a 1 but got ripped. Now the schools are back I am back to being delayed getting to work. Today's bowl out came courtesy of 34428 deciding it didn't want to perform on the 0859 6 so the fitter was called out. 36937 was stepped up at 0908 to work the late 0859 service so I opted to do 27520 on the 0911 which in itself managed to depart four minutes late.

18423 has appeared this afternoon on the tracker coming in from Hitchin on a 9B which seems to be its first working of the day. It looks like 18104 has also done a 50 making three tridents from Kettering today on the route.

Love your postings, but I'd like to know what you mean by 'the tracker'. There are a number of apps which feed off the basic info theca is on the VIX (https://vixtechnology.com/) database. But where and at what are you getting actual vehicle details?

For actually catching services, I use the MyBusTrip app (https://cbgbususers.wordpress.com/passenger-information-displays/). Available on iOS (https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/mybustrip/id526679149?mt=8) or Android OS (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.acis.mybustrip.screens), which I find more reliable than the Stagecoach app.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Grahamk748 on April 23, 2019, 09:17:42 PM
https://bustimes.org/vehicles#10/57.0183/-4.6884

I think this is what MIB is referring to. That’s the site I’ve been using anyway.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: HughT on April 24, 2019, 08:08:40 AM
I'm a fan of the map that the folk at SmartCambridge have come up with:
https://smartcambridge.org/transport/map/# (https://smartcambridge.org/transport/map/#)
It does cover Bedford as well, although I believe Milton Keynes is the limit of its western coverage.

Hover over a bus icon for basic info. Click on it for more detail. Doesn't offer vehicle registration number, just fleet.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on April 25, 2019, 01:18:29 PM
https://bustimes.org/vehicles#10/57.0183/-4.6884

I think this is what MIB is referring to. That’s the site I’ve been using anyway.

Yes that is it but Inverness is very disappointing as only seems to monitor route 3.

Today we appear to have lost three tridents with only 18419 visible on a 1. As only four vehicles are showing up on route 1, I would suspect one of the missing tridents is the fifth vehicle. 18104 appears to be heading to Bedford to form the 1332 50 and it appears that 11134 did the 0832 50, 18101 the 0932 50 and 11127 the 1232 50. 34421 is on route 41 and 34422 on route 7. It doesn't look like W7 vehicles get picked up either as I was looking at 37060 on Tuesday evening but it wasn't showing up in River St.

Hopefully I have just witnessed a glitch in the system as 27642 is showing up in Church Arcade on a 41. Could be messy if a reality...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Grahamk748 on April 25, 2019, 06:18:25 PM
The bus tracker site is showing a few more route around the Inverness area tonight. The site is still apparently a work in progress. There must be a hell of a lot of work involved to cover the whole country. Big thumbs up to whoever is runnin/ made the site.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on April 29, 2019, 01:22:33 PM
I can only pick up route 5 for Inverness at present so I can't follow 18337 but it did the 1215 26 to Fortrose. Cumbria is still a wilderness as well so that will be fascinating once populated.

Our own 18336 is currently on a 2 from Flitwick and 18104 is heading this way presumably for the 1332 50. 18419 and 18424 are both on 1's so the only one I still can't locate is 18423. 35179 did the 1232 50 following on from 39682 and 39687 this morning. I see 19698 and 19703  are both on the Cambridge X5's today.

This morning I returned for the 0839 after a period of doing the 0854 and nothing has changed. The 9B from Hitchin was 15 minutes late and the convoy of three buses approached at the same time and all stopped for a change. 19704 was on the 81 and 27523 on the 9 so I did the middle bus 19888 on the 9B. Curiously 19889 was my bus to work on the 0911 6 which left 7 minutes late owing to the time it took for a driver to board it.

It is disappointing to note that it appears the drivers are now using the temporary stop in Manton Lane to drop people off before 0930 rather than the actual stop. I had been assured that the temporary stop was only during the working period 0930-1530 but all the drivers I have spoken too have not been told this so they are missing out the normal stop before 0930 even though they can still use it up to that time. How can it be that customers like me are given different info to the bus drivers?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Jos on April 29, 2019, 02:18:15 PM
Yes that is it but Inverness is very disappointing as only seems to monitor route 3.

A number of routes, including all of Inverness, only track when someone is viewing the map and timetable page for that route.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on April 29, 2019, 05:44:27 PM
Ex London short Enviro 200 36301 (LX56DZU) has entered service today and was on the 53. It has had flipdot blinds from one of the scrapped 53 plate Darts installed. They had better blinds from the withdrawn Solo's to pinch so I'm surprised they picked those
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on April 30, 2019, 05:12:41 PM
A number of routes, including all of Inverness, only track when someone is viewing the map and timetable page for that route.

I think you will need to type that a bit slower for me to understand at my age as I'm not with you.  ::) I know that 18091 and 18339 were both on route 28 Inverness to Dingwall today but I have not been able to manage to get that route or vehicles visible on the map.

I might have found 18423 as there was a trident half in and out of the garage this morning round the back as it is still not on the tracker. It did look as though the system had a fault this morning as 19705 was showing on an X5 and 18424 on a 1, but both vehicles were heading south on Paula Radcliffe Way towards Clapham which is some diversion!

On my way home yesterday I had 18101 required for the year on the 50, only 20 late, and 19890 on the 1830 81. This meant I had 19888-890 in that order for the day. 18424 had been ripped from the 1 and was on 6's. 19699 did an X5 to Cambridge whilst 19698 did the 1740 X5 short to MK.

Like yesterday my bus into town today on the 9 was 19888 but I did reel in winner 11132 on the 0932 50 to get to work. Another winner on view was 36302 on a 1. I think I prefer the tridents to be honest such as 18419 and 18336 also on the 1 route.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on May 02, 2019, 02:02:38 PM
I managed to find 53105 heading towards Inverness on a 61 on Tuesday so it hasn't copped it yet and today I have located three tridents on route 4 around Inverness, these being 18018, 18346 and 18449 but still no joy in getting the Dingwall routes picked up on the map. I will just have to be patient.

18423 has now reappeared on the tracker and is on route 1 today alongside 18336 but now 18419 has sunk without trace. This suggests not enough monitors to go around and the tridents are taking it in turns not to be tracked. 18424 is currently making its way to Bedford on an 81. Likewise 19703 is merrily making its way from Cambridge on an X5.

I viewed 19702 on an X5 blinded for MK going home on Tuesday whilst waiting for the 1810 9A which was a very disappointing 27646. 18104 was on the 1810 50 an hour behind 18101 with 37072 performing on a W7.

This morning my 9B into town was running 15 minutes late with 19700 as per normal so I jumped on 34831 on the 9 that was meant to be 15 minutes behind 19700. Alas a nasty greeting for me at the bus station with 48024 on a 6. It has been noticeable that since the demise of the 47xxx solos we have been spared these mini buses turning up on the 6 and 9 but here was a reminder we are never far from being bowled out by one of these crates producing. I was so appalled I did 35221 on the 0932 50 instead. Incidentally 39687 was again on the 0832 50.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on May 02, 2019, 05:14:37 PM
...This suggests not enough monitors to go around and the tridents are taking it in turns not to be tracked...

Please explain: I thought all the tracking was through the VIX ticket machines. What haven't I understood?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Jos on May 02, 2019, 07:19:39 PM
Please explain: I thought all the tracking was through the VIX ticket machines. What haven't I understood?

I think you're correct.

It's a slightly odd coincidence that 18423 (https://bustimes.org/vehicles/19254?date=2019-05-02) stopped tracking at 09:39 and 18419 (https://bustimes.org/vehicles/19336?date=2019-05-02) started tracking at 09:40. This is idle speculation, but it's possible that there's an arbitrary limit to the number of vehicles one of the computer systems involved can handle at once.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Steven Knight Media on May 03, 2019, 10:41:36 AM
Please explain: I thought all the tracking was through the VIX ticket machines. What haven't I understood?

As I understand the vehicle tracking is through the VIX ticket machine and there is no limit to the number of vehicles on the database. VIX as I understand it will track the vehicle and generally show the route its is on based on the journey code input. However, as I understand it  the VIX system also has to 'talk' to the Traveline timetable database to enable it them provide full real time timetable service information.

I recently looked at the Smart Cambridge SmartPanel based on the map for Central Peterborough. The vehicles show on the map but bus stop and journey tracking does not. This I was told was because the timetable data for Peterborough is part of Traveline East Midlands area and has not been input into the SmartCambridge system, whereas that for Cambridge (which is in the East Anglia area) has. What I think I am trying to say, in a long winded way, is that it is not just one standalone system that provides the tracking information it needs data from two separate sources. That means different tracking sites need to pull the feeds separately and combine them to provide their own feeds. Where tracking details look odd it may be a case that the a particular site is not using the latest data. This can be a problem, I understand, when vehicles are transferred.

I think I am correct on the above but if anyone has a different explation I stand corrected.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on May 03, 2019, 03:39:26 PM
Thanks for these explanations it just seems curious that I can no longer track all four Bedford tridents. Same story today with 18336 on the 5, 18419 on a 81 and 18424 on a 9A but 18423 is off the radar again. What is exciting is that 18336 on a 5 is currently showing passing 19698 on an X5 but not down Goldington Road. Apparently both buses are in Sharnbrook so I don't know how that can be explained.   8)

To be fair I have yet to pick up the two new arrivals on the system and on my way home from work yesterday I had no bus showing up at all but that didn't prevent 36936 arriving on time at 1758 at my stop. Also not around was 18419 which was on the 1815 51 but not showing on the system. 19108 was recorded on the 1810 50 as was 35177 on an earlier 50. The last W7 of the day produced 28623 but I had to settle for a soggy 19893 on the 1810 9A. Try avoiding sitting in the upper deck above the door front seat as there was a constant drip from the ceiling.

This morning I had 19701 on the 9B into town and 34424 on the 6 to work. Dud gold bus 11132 was on the 0832 50 with 18104 an hour behind it. This afternoon 35225 has also made an appearance on the 50. It is all very different to the days of four diagrams with more variety now. 19888 is out on the Cambridge section of the X5.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: SteveHFC on May 07, 2019, 02:06:28 PM
36937 was working the 1300 departure from Milton Keynes on the 99 to Luton Airport this afternoon.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on May 07, 2019, 04:15:32 PM
I made a quick visit into town on Saturday on 18419 on the 9A and returned home with 19701 on an 81. I did note 36301 on a 7 with 34833 whilst 18101, 15401 and 15404 all appeared on 50's.

Back to work today on 19893 on the 17 late 9B followed by 36936 on the 9 but not showing on the radar. 18423 is still missing in action whilst 19889 was showing on an X5. 18336, 18424 and 36302 were all performing on the 1 with 18108 and 19108 on 50's and 18419 on a 9A.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on May 07, 2019, 05:33:02 PM
I made a quick visit into town on Saturday on 18419 on the 9A and returned home with 19701 on an 81. I did note 36301 on a 7 with 34833 whilst 18101, 15401 and 15404 all appeared on 50's.

Back to work today on 19893 on the 17 late 9B followed by 36936 on the 9 but not showing on the radar. 18423 is still missing in action whilst 19889 was showing on an X5. 18336, 18424 and 36302 were all performing on the 1 with 18108 and 19108 on 50's and 18419 on a 9A.

They really need to keep 36301/02 off the 1 .They're too small for the route. Being short wheelbase Enviro 200's they're barely bigger than a Solo on a route which is meant to be double deck!
They'd be better off being sent to Fenstanton in exchange for 2 Darts
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on May 07, 2019, 07:57:06 PM
They really need to keep 36301/02 off the 1 .They're too small for the route. Being short wheelbase Enviro 200's they're barely bigger than a Solo on a route which is meant to be double deck!
They'd be better off being sent to Fenstanton in exchange for 2 Darts

Perhaps we could borrow a few for the GTR-funded shuttle services during the closure of Mill Road Railway Bridge.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on May 07, 2019, 09:33:40 PM
Perhaps we could borrow a few for the GTR-funded shuttle services during the closure of Mill Road Railway Bridge.

36301/02 are extra vehicles whilst bromham road railway bridge is rebuilt. So maybe their next destination will be Cambridge for that purpose
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Steven Knight Media on May 09, 2019, 02:27:30 PM
The last of the withdrawn Bedford vehicles - 47435-42 have all been sold to Ensign Bus. Initially owned by Bedfordshire Country Council they were subsequently transferred to Stagecoach.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on May 09, 2019, 04:25:53 PM
I was working from home on Wednesday but I still had to venture out in the downpour for an expensive visit to the dentist. I hadn't realised I had gone private such were the charges. Rip off Britain is getting worse. My buses for the bad news were 19892 on the 9A and 19704 on an 81.

Wounded by the experience of yesterday, the bus tracker revealed that 18423 was running 18 late on the 9A this morning so I decided to stay at home and venture out for it when it was one road away. However, I was duped as the trident was still showing as being in Harrowden Road five minutes after entering the road. So I sauntered out only to be confronted by 18423 and 27642 on the 9 sailing past the bottom of my road despite the tracker showing both to be approaching Mile Road. I was not happy by this deception as clearly the tracker had stopped updating their movements so I had to walk into town. The whole point of this toy is that I can time when to set off to the bus stop but clearly it was malfunctioning which was confirmed later.

At work I found all four tridents for a change with 18336 and 18419 on 1's, 18424 on a 73 and 18423 on 9A's. 15404 was picked up on the 0932 50 but still no trace of the shrimps 36301 and 36302 on the system. I went into the tracker this afternoon for an update and before my very eyes, every single bus that was on screen disappeared at the same time. It was like what must have happened to the dinosaurs where they all vanished together. Perhaps Stagecoach have developed a Klingon cloaking device or the system has just given up the ghost. I thought it was on the blink this morning with duff info which included an 81 in Milton Ernest!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on May 10, 2019, 12:07:41 PM
My bus from the office on the 6 yesterday was 18424 but thanks to the radar losing all contact with the outside world I had to guess when it was coming rather than time an interception. We passed 36301 on a 10 before I did 27521 home on the 1810 9A whilst 37061 was parked up in River St.

Thankfully the tracker was back this morning so I could monitor when to leave home and this time the buses were in the right locations albeit I was forced to do 27644 on the 9 because 19704 on the 15 late 9A opted not to stop on seeing the crowd getting on 27644. Today's lost trident on the system is 18419 which I could not find anywhere but 18423 was on an inbound 73 and 18336/18424 on 1's. Corby Star 15404 was on the 0932 50 so I did that to work as a once only bus. 18108 was on the inbound 50 to form the 1032 and I am currently missing winner 11136 which will form the 1232 50.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on May 13, 2019, 01:44:17 PM
I had a lazy day on Saturday so I ventured into town in the afternoon on 19701 on a 9B hoping to scratch in winners 36301 and 36302. This proved to be a misguided decision only suitable for timewasting as 36301 had been on the 6's but got ripped on my arrival and just sat parked up for an hour. 36302 was also in situ on my arrival and headed off not in service presumably to the garage so I timed that well. Noted during my hour of inactivity were 18424 on the 1615 81, 18336 on the 1639 2 to Flitwick and 15405 on the 1712 50. Laughably 48031 was on 1's but the error of their ways was realised when it got ripped. 18419 was on 5's and 36935 did a 10. Apparently 27520 was on a 99.

As it happens this morning I did 19888 on the 9B into town and the 0923 6 produced winner 36302 anyway so it was reeled in to the office. I notice it has no posters inside so is a free agent. Why does the interior remind me of those heaps 34097 and 34098 we used to have? 18419 and 18424 are both on 1's whilst 18101 and 15403 have performed on 50's. A scan of the radar shows 36935 and 36937 enjoying themselves on the 99 route whilst 53616 is on 81's. It also appeared that the 1210 X5 from Cambridge was 19701. No idea where 36301 is as the new recruits have not featured on the tracker since arriving.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on May 13, 2019, 10:47:25 PM
I had a lazy day on Saturday so I ventured into town in the afternoon on 19701 on a 9B hoping to scratch in winners 36301 and 36302. This proved to be a misguided decision only suitable for timewasting as 36301 had been on the 6's but got ripped on my arrival and just sat parked up for an hour. 36302 was also in situ on my arrival and headed off not in service presumably to the garage so I timed that well. Noted during my hour of inactivity were 18424 on the 1615 81, 18336 on the 1639 2 to Flitwick and 15405 on the 1712 50. Laughably 48031 was on 1's but the error of their ways was realised when it got ripped. 18419 was on 5's and 36935 did a 10. Apparently 27520 was on a 99.

As it happens this morning I did 19888 on the 9B into town and the 0923 6 produced winner 36302 anyway so it was reeled in to the office. I notice it has no posters inside so is a free agent. Why does the interior remind me of those heaps 34097 and 34098 we used to have? 18419 and 18424 are both on 1's whilst 18101 and 15403 have performed on 50's. A scan of the radar shows 36935 and 36937 enjoying themselves on the 99 route whilst 53616 is on 81's. It also appeared that the 1210 X5 from Cambridge was 19701. No idea where 36301 is as the new recruits have not featured on the tracker since arriving.

36301/02 are the same size as 34097/98 were. They're not much bigger than a Solo and not big enough for the busier town routes.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: tomfrombedford on May 13, 2019, 11:25:44 PM
Has something happened to 48036 or have I completely missed it for a good month or two now?
Anybody any idea whether any of the omnicity’s from London will be inherited by Bedford?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on May 13, 2019, 11:37:47 PM
Has something happened to 48036 or have I completely missed it for a good month or two now?
Anybody any idea whether any of the omnicity’s from London will be inherited by Bedford?

The ex London Scania's are going to Cambridge. Bedford can't have ex London deckers as they're too tall for some of the routes. When 17484 was on loan last year it was confined to town routes due to its height.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: tomfrombedford on May 14, 2019, 12:05:34 PM
They aren’t particularly old but aren’t they too old for Cambridge? Also to be pretty honest, since the change to the 9’s happened, they need deckers for town routes anyway- route 1 on some days is lucky to see a decker, 9’s need them also 5 could do with them at peaks. Would help keep the likes of 36301/36302 off the 1’s surely? Apart from 81 none of the routes further than town really need a decker
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on May 14, 2019, 03:05:34 PM
They aren’t particularly old but aren’t they too old for Cambridge? Also to be pretty honest, since the change to the 9’s happened, they need deckers for town routes anyway- route 1 on some days is lucky to see a decker, 9’s need them also 5 could do with them at peaks. Would help keep the likes of 36301/36302 off the 1’s surely? Apart from 81 none of the routes further than town really need a decker

What's the first-registered date of the ex-London Scania vehicles?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on May 14, 2019, 03:17:07 PM
What's the first-registered date of the ex-London Scania vehicles?

They're all 09 plates
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on May 14, 2019, 05:40:49 PM
They're all 09 plates

Looking at Stagecoach East vehicles and allocations May 2019 (http://www.atvbf.co.uk/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item599), Uploaded by Steven Knight Media, I'm inclined to agree with Tom's earlier comment.

They aren’t particularly old but aren’t they too old for Cambridge?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on May 14, 2019, 06:01:59 PM
Looking at Stagecoach East vehicles and allocations May 2019 (http://www.atvbf.co.uk/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item599), Uploaded by Steven Knight Media, I'm inclined to agree with Tom's earlier comment.

I would say they're too old for any Stagecoach East depot and would've had a hard life in London making them potentially in worse condition than what they might replace
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on May 14, 2019, 07:02:37 PM
A little update on missing vehicles. Enviro 200 36934 (SN63KFO) is still impounded at Buckdale it's parked in a corner and you can only see it when there's not many lorries parked in the way and only from the platform of Bedford St Johns Station. This one has now been off the road since late 2017!

Optare Solo SR 48036 (YJ66ASZ) is off the road and awaiting work for it's MOT which ran out on 18th April

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: tomfrombedford on May 14, 2019, 11:17:23 PM
I would say they're too old for any Stagecoach East depot and would've had a hard life in London making them potentially in worse condition than what they might replace

If only this was true - we’ve just been sent 2006 e200’s from London and have numerous 03/06 vehicles in regular service? 2009 buses would be quite new for us!

Al_557 - 36934 only had 4 years then, do we reckon it’s ever going to get out of Buckeale? I thought 48036 had disappeared, is strange they’re taking their time about it saying it’s just been painted into the new green smart travel livery
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on May 15, 2019, 12:08:58 AM
If only this was true - we’ve just been sent 2006 e200’s from London and have numerous 03/06 vehicles in regular service? 2009 buses would be quite new for us!

Al_557 - 36934 only had 4 years then, do we reckon it’s ever going to get out of Buckeale? I thought 48036 had disappeared, is strange they’re taking their time about it saying it’s just been painted into the new green smart travel livery

36934 was involved in a fatal accident. It'll be released whenever the police are finished with it. It'll need major work before it can turn a wheel in service again after sitting for soo long.

The 2006 Tridents at Bedford are most probably in better condition than the 09 plate ex London Scania's. The two ex London Enviro 200's are only a temporary addition to help with the increased PVR Network rail's work on Bromham road bridge has caused. The remaining 53 and 06 plate Darts will not have longer than a couple of years service left with Stagecoach as the type are being gradually phased out nationally. 56 plate examples have already been sold on from other Stagecoach companies.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on May 15, 2019, 02:25:42 PM
On Monday after doing 18423 on the 6 from work I viewed 19091 on the last W7 of the day. The radar has not picked up 34422 for some time so has it gone or been dumped in the garage?

Yesterday I had to go to MK for work so I did 18419 on a 9 for 37436 on the 6 for my lift. 36937 was still performing on the 99. My bus home on the 1710 9A was 18423 whilst 18108 did the 1712 50 and winner 36301 was the unsatisfactory choice for the 1705 Northampton 41 packed with school kids and workers. I did contemplate scratching it in to the station but the wedge factor put me off.

This morning I couldn't get up early enough for winner 11138 on the 0832 50 whilst 15402 was inbound on the 50 for the 0932. Sadly I missed 36301 on the 3 because it still can't be picked up on radar. Had I known I would have walked to London Road for it instead of doing 19888 on the 81 into town. Once again my bus to work on the 0859 6 was 36302. This afforded me the luxury of viewing 19699 departing on time with the 0856 X5 to Cambridge. 18424 was on a 53 whilst 18419 and 18423 were on 1's. Apparently 36937 is still going strong on 99's.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on May 15, 2019, 02:36:10 PM
36301/02 are the same size as 34097/98 were. They're not much bigger than a Solo and not big enough for the busier town routes.

Of course, that is why I thought I had gone back in time and how could I forget 34102 another of those crates to grace our roads...
 :-\
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on May 15, 2019, 03:20:33 PM
Of course, that is why I thought I had gone back in time and how could I forget 34102 another of those crates to grace our roads...
 :-\
You also forgot 34141/60 (V141/60MVX) which were the other ex London short Darts once at Bedford
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on May 15, 2019, 04:09:07 PM
Looking at Stagecoach East vehicles and allocations May 2019 (http://www.atvbf.co.uk/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item599), Uploaded by Steven Knight Media, I'm inclined to agree with Tom's earlier comment.

I don't recall seeing 34429 this year included in the bus fleet. Where is that hiding? In fact where are all the 27xxx fleet in our allocations?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on May 15, 2019, 07:56:58 PM
I don't recall seeing 34429 this year included in the bus fleet. Where is that hiding? In fact where are all the 27xxx fleet in our allocations?

They'll have trouble using 34429 (KV53EZF) in service as it was withdrawn in April 2018 and has now been scrapped
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: SteveHFC on May 16, 2019, 02:18:37 PM
36935 on the 99 this afternoon - on 1400 & 1710 departures from MK, and 1515 & 1820 departures from Luton Airport. Means passengers will be left behind in MK as even the coaches often don't have enough capacity on the 1710 departure.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on May 16, 2019, 04:02:59 PM
36935 on the 99 this afternoon - on 1400 & 1710 departures from MK, and 1515 & 1820 departures from Luton Airport. Means passengers will be left behind in MK as even the coaches often don't have enough capacity on the 1710 departure.

Bring back the 'MegaDecker'!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on May 16, 2019, 09:17:53 PM
Bring back the 'MegaDecker'!

That would be great. But more deckers and less Darts would also be useful
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: SteveHFC on May 17, 2019, 09:53:25 AM
36935 on the 99 this afternoon - on 1400 & 1710 departures from MK, and 1515 & 1820 departures from Luton Airport. Means passengers will be left behind in MK as even the coaches often don't have enough capacity on the 1710 departure.

It completed the day on the 2010 (MK) and 2120 (Luton) departures as well. Spotted it going north on the M1 about 2145 last night. Same driver throughout.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on May 20, 2019, 02:22:11 PM
Happily 36301 and 36302 are now with us on the radar. Winner 36301 is currently sitting at Tesco on a 4 whilst 36302 is out on a 5.

My buses to work today were 19705 on a 9B running 7 minutes late and 15402 on the 0932 50. Also on the 50 were 15401 and 15403 so if Kettering could send the other two 15404-405 today we may get all five visiting in a day which probably has never happened before.

Also viewed this morning were 19701 to Cambridge on an X5, 34428 on a 3, 18423 and 18424 on 1's, 18336 and 18419 on 53's but the latter is now doing 2's as I type this. 53613 is on an 81 as so often happens. No trace of any 99's on the system thereby hiding any evidence of the wrong type of bus that might be plying the route.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: SteveHFC on May 20, 2019, 04:47:06 PM
Don't know if it eventually ran or not, but the 1300 departure on the 99 from MK Station hadn't appeared as I passed through on foot at 1310. It's a duty & diagram that travels over dead from Bedford before spending the rest of the day on the 99.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on May 21, 2019, 04:50:38 PM
As 36301 was on the 4 and 7 route yesterday I thought I  might get it going home on the 3 so after doing 34830 on the 6 it looked good as the 1815 3 was the correct type of vehicle. However, I was bowled as it was 36302 which had done the 5's all day. I didn't think that was meant to happen, as I can't recall seeing a bus off the 5 go onto a 3, so I went home on 19699 on the 1810 9A instead suitably unimpressed. 37049 was parked up cheekily in the bus station.

This morning the radar picked up winner 36301 on the 9 into town but there was a hitch. It was the rear vehicle in the 0839 convoy behind 19891 on the 81 and 19699 on the 9A which usually means the rear vehicle bypasses my stop if one of the two in front stops to pick up. However, my luck was in as unusually, all three buses had to stop as somebody was getting off each one so for once I was able to get the rear bus in so 36301 is now dud. 37438 produced for the 0859 6 to the office.

I missed out on 11126 which had done the 0832 50 but who knows when the 0932 deemed to show up. The inbound 50 from Kettering was showing up as being a staggering 48 minutes late on the radar with 19087. If you were unfortunate enough to be waiting at a stop with no screen gen as to the service timekeeping you would probably give up and go home. I know I would, as anything over half an hour late suggests the service isn't actually running. Thankfully this buses website is a godsend to actually see what is occurring out there.

As for our tridents, 18336, 18423 and 18424 were on 1's with 18419 on a 9B.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on May 23, 2019, 02:00:05 PM
I mentioned on the tracking thread that 19699 was showing on Tuesday running 132 minutes late on a 51. I do not believe that to be true for one minute so the system must have gone wonky like it did this morning when all the buses vanished from my screen in another nuclear blast wipe out. At the same time I got an email from Stagecoach Bedford apologising for their phone lines being down so maybe there is a link? I did believe 37112 was on the W7 on Tuesday having viewed that for myself.

The gen is back up now and currently shows 53612 on a 99 heading up Ampthill Road towards Bedford making its escape leaving 27521 on the booked 99 route. 18104 is currently on the 1332 50.

Before the system crashed this morning I made a note of 15402 on the 0832 50 and that my treat into town on the 9 was again 36301. 36302 was on the 7, 19703 the 0810 X5 from Cambridge at a guess by its location, whilst 18336, 27522 and 34833 were on 1's. On 36301 we passed 18419 on the 0900 81 and then on board 27523 on the 6 to work 18101 went past for the 0932 50.

I have been unable to locate 18423 and 424 so far today.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on May 23, 2019, 03:12:54 PM
I mentioned on the tracking thread that 19699 was showing on Tuesday running 132 minutes late on a 51. I do not believe that to be true for one minute so the system must have gone wonky like it did this morning when all the buses vanished from my screen in another nuclear blast wipe out. At the same time I got an email from Stagecoach Bedford apologising for their phone lines being down so maybe there is a link? I did believe 37112 was on the W7 on Tuesday having viewed that for myself.

The gen is back up now and currently shows 53612 on a 99 heading up Ampthill Road towards Bedford making its escape leaving 27521 on the booked 99 route. 18104 is currently on the 1332 50.

Before the system crashed this morning I made a note of 15402 on the 0832 50 and that my treat into town on the 9 was again 36301. 36302 was on the 7, 19703 the 0810 X5 from Cambridge at a guess by its location, whilst 18336, 27522 and 34833 were on 1's. On 36301 we passed 18419 on the 0900 81 and then on board 27523 on the 6 to work 18101 went past for the 0932 50.

I have been unable to locate 18423 and 424 so far today.

Could have been phone lines and broadband together.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: tomfrombedford on May 23, 2019, 03:58:05 PM
Am currently sat on 37432 as I type, is something going on with this bus as the noise coming from the engine is shocking!! People were coming to sit at the back of the bus then going back to the front as it’s so bad.

Today I’ve been presented with 36045 on the 5’s along with 37432 which is going to burst my eardrums in a minute.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on May 23, 2019, 04:08:43 PM
Am currently sat on 37432 as I type, is something going on with this bus as the noise coming from the engine is shocking!! People were coming to sit at the back of the bus then going back to the front as it’s so bad.

Today I’ve been presented with 36045 on the 5’s along with 37432 which is going to burst my eardrums in a minute.

If you have a twitter account, I'd suggest you tweet the query to @Stagecoach_East for them to pass on to the engineers. Otherwise email bedford.enquiries@stagecoachbus.com.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on May 23, 2019, 05:58:06 PM
Am currently sat on 37432 as I type, is something going on with this bus as the noise coming from the engine is shocking!! People were coming to sit at the back of the bus then going back to the front as it’s so bad.

Today I’ve been presented with 36045 on the 5’s along with 37432 which is going to burst my eardrums in a minute.

I've been on 36045 (AE08NVV) today as well. It sounded ok this morning. It was always the worst of the E200's though. It spent a few months off the road last year with various issues.

Surprised one of the MMC's seems to be playing up. They've been very reliable since they came to Bedford. Normally it's the Darts that breakdown but that's because they're old and past their sell by date. The Volvo B6's they replaced were only in service 10 years. The newest Darts are now 13 years old
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: tomfrombedford on May 23, 2019, 07:39:23 PM
I've been on 36045 (AE08NVV) today as well. It sounded ok this morning. It was always the worst of the E200's though. It spent a few months off the road last year with various issues.

Surprised one of the MMC's seems to be playing up. They've been very reliable since they came to Bedford. Normally it's the Darts that breakdown but that's because they're old and past their sell by date. The Volvo B6's they replaced were only in service 10 years. The newest Darts are now 13 years old

36045 is okay mostly apart from the rattling which is irritating more than anything- it seems to me like Stagecoach are completely neglecting Bedford- we literally get sent everybody else’s rejects! Apart from the x5 coaches we’ve had nothing new since 2013 and that was only 4. I’m hoping when the 2006 darts finally pack in maybe we’ll see something new!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on May 23, 2019, 10:23:20 PM
36045 is okay mostly apart from the rattling which is irritating more than anything- it seems to me like Stagecoach are completely neglecting Bedford- we literally get sent everybody else’s rejects! Apart from the x5 coaches we’ve had nothing new since 2013 and that was only 4. I’m hoping when the 2006 darts finally pack in maybe we’ll see something new!

We can only hope that Stagecoach finally send some new vehicles to Bedford when the Darts finally get withdrawn. But that will not be until the 2020/21 orders at the earliest as the current orders only have batch of 12 MMC's for Fenstanton which will replace 09,10 and 12 plate Scania Enviro 400's for cascade elsewhere. Nothing else is on order for Stagecoach East this year.
Said Scania's will probably not be not be sent to Bedford as others have pointed out before. The fitters are not trained on Scania's
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on May 24, 2019, 02:07:54 PM
My buses home yesterday were 18104 on the 50 and 36301 on the 1725 9. Whilst I couldn't detect 18423 on the radar it was viewed departing on a 5. Not a lot to report this morning. 15404, 15405 and 19084 were on 50's , 19890 did the 0826 X5 to Cambridge, 36301 was on 5's, 36302 on 2's and 18419 and 34827 on 1's. I had to make do with 19705 on the 9B and 27521 on the 0911 6. One of the 9's was missing so it could be one of the tridents not being picked up on the system.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: tomfrombedford on May 24, 2019, 02:44:48 PM
Seems as if there’s a shortage of full size buses today- 48024 and 36301 are both on the 5’s which is slowing down the frequency
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on May 25, 2019, 04:46:47 PM
Optare Solo SR 48036 (YJ66ASZ) is now back in service and was on the 4 and 10 this afternoon.
Steven Knight Media reported Dart 34424 (KV53EZA) being at Peterborough. Does anyone know if that has gone for there service or are Peterborough helping Bedford with maintenance?.

I know Steven Knight posts on here so I'd like to take the oppurtunity to thank him for his excellent site which provides enthusiasts with very useful information which might not have been as easily available without his efforts.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Steven Knight Media on May 26, 2019, 06:16:16 PM
Optare Solo SR 48036 (YJ66ASZ) is now back in service and was on the 4 and 10 this afternoon.
Steven Knight Media reported Dart 34424 (KV53EZA) being at Peterborough. Does anyone know if that has gone for there service or are Peterborough helping Bedford with maintenance?.

I know Steven Knight posts on here so I'd like to take the oppurtunity to thank him for his excellent site which provides enthusiasts with very useful information which might not have been as easily available without his efforts.

With many thanks for your kind comments. I have a good relationship across UK Bus and hopefully allows the posting of information on my own site and also on here that I hope readers find of interest. Sometimes I am shared upcoming 'plans' that do not always happen but I feel that for the completeness of 'history' it is important that these plans are recorded.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on May 28, 2019, 02:54:55 PM
My buses home last Friday were orange blob 15405 on the 50 and required for the year 48031 on the 3 which just leaves 48024, 48032, 48034 and 48035 to get a ride on this year as far as the Bedford fleet goes.

This morning my buses to work were 19703 on the 9B and another orange peel 15404 on the 50. As I type this 15403 is making its way out of Bedford on another 50. 15402 had done the 0832 earlier this morning. The only trident I can find is 18419 on the 1 so I don't know if the others are not being tracked or parked up for half term. 36301 and 26302 are both gallivanting on 5's which will be cosy for people going home from work.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on May 30, 2019, 02:03:39 PM
My buses home on Tuesday were 15403 on the 18 late 50 from Kettering and 19701 on the 1830 81. I am convinced when I last did 15403 it was orange so the corporate livery has been applied. My notes suggest I have only previously had 401 and 402 in standard livery. 36935 was on 99's and 37048 was on the W7.

Our four tridents are now back up on the system and for a change are all on different routes today. 18336 on route 1, 18419 on route 51, 18423 on route 6 and 18424 on route 73. 15402, 15405 and 19087 were all sighted on 50's, 36301 was on 2's but has now swapped to a 3 and 36302 noted on a 7. The 99 is home to 36937 which seems to be the favoured bus type for the route.

All sounds very dull doesn't it?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on May 31, 2019, 01:35:12 PM
As luck would have it my buses home yesterday were 18423 on a 6 and 18424 on the 1815 73. 15402 was on the 1810 50, 19706 on a 2 and 22836 was taking up space in the bus station with its one branding off the W7. A route 2 branded vehicle was also seen in the distance on a W7.

This morning my chariots to work were 36937 on the 9 and 18108 on the 0932 50. The Bedford tridents were 18336 and 18419 on 1's, 18419 on 6's and 18424 on 9A's. I see winner 11127 has done the 1232 50 and is running 11 minutes late. Meanwhile 19701 is heading for Cambridge on what looks like the 1256 X5.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: tomfrombedford on May 31, 2019, 06:24:15 PM
36302 currently on the 9A to Hitchin, going to be very comfortable- whilst an empty 18423 drives off to Wooton. Also saw an unidentified solo, E400 and trident on the 5, with 36301 on 6’s.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on June 03, 2019, 02:02:20 PM
Last week was a good week for riding tridents and to finish the week I had 18419 on the 6 after work on Friday and viewing 27682 on a W7. On Saturday I did 18424 on a 9B into town and then went down to Epsom. Last year ex Stagecoach Aldershot B10's 20005, 20006 and 20012 all produced for me to Epsom Downs but not so good this year with just 20005 performing Saturday lunchtime. Several RM's were on the shuttles but despite also being on route 406F, the fare to do them was £5 single compared to £5 return for the B10. Are they doubling the fare for double deckers paying for an extra layer of seats? Another case for Rip off Britain to look into! Back in Bedford my bus home on the 9 was 18423.

This morning I had 19889 on the 9B into town and the old shaking rattler 27520 on the 6 which must give the worst ride of any Bedford cart. I wanted to get a photo of Buttercup and Daisy but no sooner had they named them and 52437 is despatched away to another depot. What was the point of naming them and splitting them up?

Route 2 drew the short straw this morning with both 36301 and 36302 performing. The X5 was host to 19701 heading to Cambridge with 19699 coming the other way. Tridents viewed earlier were 18108 on the 0832 50, 18336 on 1's alongside 27646, 18419 on 51's, 18423 arrived on a 73 and 18424 did the 0840 9B.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on June 04, 2019, 02:13:06 PM
The tracker showed up 28632 in Bromham Road yesterday evening on a 7 so I assume this meant a W7 and not the Brackmills route 7. If it was the latter then it was miles out. Viewed for myself in River St was 36163 on the W7 which I have not clapped eyes on before. My buses home from work were 18336 on a 6, we passed 18423 also on a 6, and 19701 on the 1810 9B. 18419 should have been the 1840 9B.

This morning I resurrected my 0839 move to get to work and I was not disappointed as the trio of buses arriving with the 9A running its customary 15 minutes late were still to the fore. Some things never change. I did 19699 on the 9B leading 34832 on the 9 and 19702 on the 81.

Noted on the X5 were 19700 on the 0900 to Cambridge with 19893 coming the other way. The tridents were back to dominating route 1 with 18336, 18419 and 18424 all out. 37435 did a 9B to Hitchin, 36301 was still on 2's and 36302 was on the 6 but I flagged it for winner 11126 on the 0932 50 to get to the office.

The gold bus may have arrived 3 minutes early but it left 5 minutes late. I do wish drivers would pull up to the stand five minutes before departure to load up and take fares and answer queries from the public instead of nonchantly sauntering up casually to their steed two minutes after departure time, pulling in to the stand and then looking aghast that people actually want to buy tickets rather than already having pre-paid tickets. It also doesn't help people asking them awkward questions like what time does the X46 leave Rushden for Raunds and stuff like that. More time lost trying to answer the question but all lateness could be avoided entering the bay with time to spare to deal with fares and queries prior to departure time. Drivers need to remember there is no enquiry office at the bus station so chances are they will be put on the spot by passengers with queries so it would stop delaying the bus further if they made themselves available before time of departure. That will teach me for not doing 36302 on the 0935 9 which left on time when I need to get to work.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on June 06, 2019, 01:40:06 PM
18336 was again my bus from work on the 6 on Tuesday which made the minus onto 19704 on the 1810 9A as that did not leave until 1825. The inbound 9 to form the 1825 was down by 22 minutes so the traffic must have been rancid. Other stuff noted were 34428 on a 5, 18423 on an 81, 19888 on the Cambridge to MK station short X5 AND 19892 gracing the 1805 7.

This morning the 0839 9 into town was 37439 and I had 36302 on the 0911 6 to the office. Other observations were 18423 on a 9B, 36301 on a 2 arriving from Flitwick, 34428 arrived on a 73 and 48036, 18419 and 18424 were on 1's. I gather I missed winner 39687 on the 0932 50 which will teach me to get to work on time!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on June 07, 2019, 02:02:23 PM
I was saying just the other day about the blandness of the bus workings but someone has livened up the radar today by getting 18416 on a 505 to appear in London Road this afternoon. I know 18416 used to be in Bedford but I can't believe the driver has lost his way that much so the gremlins must have returned to the system. However, my eyes were not deceiving me when I went home on Tuesday as there was a white single decker parked up at the garage.

I might have missed a winner yesterday on the 0932 50 but I had a winner after work when gold 11130 appeared on the 1625 50 from Kettering. 37431 was my bus home on the 3. 18336 did the 1555 and 1815 73's, 18423 was on the 1610 9A and 18419 on the 1630 73. 27684 was viewed on a W7.

Regrettably this morning I missed another winner on the 0832 50 as 39692 was out just as I was making my way to my stop for the 0839 convoy which didn't let me down as 19893 on the 81 led 34828 on a 9 and 19703 on the statutory 15 late 9A. I did the 81 into town for 36935 on the 0859 6.

Passengers on 48036 on the 1 route yesterday clearly had not suffered enough as it is back out on 1's today alongside 18336, 18423 and 18424. The 0845 73 was 18419 and 19706 arrived on a 5 and was then earmarked for the 0856 X5 to Cambridge according to the radar which also picked up 27522 on a 99. I had a quick look on the bus times site a few moments ago and 19892 appears to be on the 1310 X5 from Cambridge. Rather unusually the Grant Palmer trident LX04 FYN, which had gone missing recently, arrived on the 1305 74 from Biggleswade and is now on the 1345 24 to Carnoustie Drive. Wonders never cease...

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on June 07, 2019, 05:29:59 PM
I was saying just the other day about the blandness of the bus workings but someone has livened up the radar today by getting 18416 on a 505 to appear in London Road this afternoon. I know 18416 used to be in Bedford but I can't believe the driver has lost his way that much so the gremlins must have returned to the system. However, my eyes were not deceiving me when I went home on Tuesday as there was a white single decker parked up at the garage.

I might have missed a winner yesterday on the 0932 50 but I had a winner after work when gold 11130 appeared on the 1625 50 from Kettering. 37431 was my bus home on the 3. 18336 did the 1555 and 1815 73's, 18423 was on the 1610 9A and 18419 on the 1630 73. 27684 was viewed on a W7.

Regrettably this morning I missed another winner on the 0832 50 as 39692 was out just as I was making my way to my stop for the 0839 convoy which didn't let me down as 19893 on the 81 led 34828 on a 9 and 19703 on the statutory 15 late 9A. I did the 81 into town for 36935 on the 0859 6.

Passengers on 48036 on the 1 route yesterday clearly had not suffered enough as it is back out on 1's today alongside 18336, 18423 and 18424. The 0845 73 was 18419 and 19706 arrived on a 5 and was then earmarked for the 0856 X5 to Cambridge according to the radar which also picked up 27522 on a 99. I had a quick look on the bus times site a few moments ago and 19892 appears to be on the 1310 X5 from Cambridge. Rather unusually the Grant Palmer trident LX04 FYN, which had gone missing recently, arrived on the 1305 74 from Biggleswade and is now on the 1345 24 to Carnoustie Drive. Wonders never cease...


Thanks to the gas works on Bedford road in Kempston. The timetable has gone out the window. It can take up to triple the usual time to get through. I was quite happy to sit on 48036 for my ride home. The seats on the 66 plate solo SR's and the MMC's are very comfortable
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: tomfrombedford on June 07, 2019, 06:23:20 PM
Have seen 48035 and 48036 on the 1’s recently, have they put more buses on the route as a result of the roadworks? I figure they must’ve done something because the buses are leaving relatively on time (which is rare on town centre routes on a good day)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on June 08, 2019, 05:48:48 PM
Withdrawn Optare Solo 47354 (AE06TWN) was collected by Ensignbus today. 47436 (YJ56AOL) has also now gone. The depot yard looks very empty now without all the withdrawn vehicles there. Next vehicles to get withdrawn are obviously going to be the Darts and possibly the four remaining Tridents. But that doesn't look like it will happen any time soon a there's nothing due to replace them
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on June 10, 2019, 01:46:28 PM
I did 19699 on a 9 into town on Saturday and 18336 and 18423 were on 1's whilst 18419 did the 0710 9A. A visit to Peterborough revealed ex Bedford 34421 and 34422 on 37's. 19017 was viewed on a 1 and I am sure that has visited Bedford on a 50 unless my memory is playing tricks on me. Also on 1's was 18420, whilst ex Bedford 18418 was on a 50, 18344 on a 56 and 18421 on a 505 in the correct location and not wandering down London Road in Bedford! My bus home was 34832 on the 1950 73 and 48036 was still going strong on the 1's. Sorry, but whatever type of seating they have I simply do not like Solo's of any description.

This morning I did 18336 into town on the 81. 48031 was sitting on the garage with 1 on the blind so not sure whether it was about to go out or had been reeled in. 19702 arrived on a 53A, 18419 and 18423 arrived together on 1's before 18419 was swapped to a 53 alongside 34428.

My bus to work was 27523 which departed 7 minutes late to wind me up. It is irritating that the inbound working deposited the passengers outside Iceland and the driver then parked the bus up instead of disgorging in the vacant departure bay. This meant the driver taking over the bus, who appeared one minute after departure time, had to then walk around the bus station to 27523 and by the time seat/ticket machine adjustments were made and the bus dropped into the bay to load another 6 minutes had been lost.

Looking at the radar on route 50 it appears that the 1232 was 39682, 1332 is 15401 and 1432 will be 15402.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on June 11, 2019, 01:31:03 PM
It was a return of the bad old days today as a scan of the radar showed all routes flushed with buses except my route 9. The only bus showing up was 19699 at the bus station on a 9 but the other 9 vehicle plus the four that should have been in action on the 9A/B were nowhere to be seen. As the rain teemed down I went for the ghost 0854 9B which was not showing hoping that it was simply a case of the route not being monitored. I had hoped my days of festering for 20 minutes at bus stops were over with radar assistance but this morning that is precisely what happened.

At 0909 18423, a ghost bus according to bus times, went past on a 9A to Hitchin. So perhaps it was the 0810 running nearly an hour late or the 0840 9B (with the wrong blind) running nearly 30 late as it was too early for the 0910. This gave me hope that either the 0854 9B and 0909 9 were coming the other way even though they were invisible. There was no sign of the 0909 9 but 19891 thankfully graced us with its presence on the 0854 9B at 0917 and took a couple of minutes to load up with very annoyed punters. Looking again at the radar it was taking the mick that every route appeared to have its normal quota of buses compared to our route. A quick check 10 minutes ago on the system now shows zero buses on the Bedford to Shortstown to Hitchin circuit as 19699 has appeared in Bedford garage so the one vehicle with a working tracker on the route is grounded.

By the time I got to town I had missed the 0923 6 so ensuring I was late for work. My mood was not assisted by the driver for the 0935 turning up at 0939 to takeover 27522 but then perhaps he could be forgiven if he was a victim of the route 9 invisible buses service waiting for something to turn up on the bridge to take the driver in from the garage. I have long felt that if Bedford is ever short of buses that it is my route that loses out from the many occasions in the old timetable when only two or three vehicles were out when four were required for the service.

Out of passing interest in the rain were 18336 and 18424 on 1's, 36301 on a 2, 36302 on a 51, 34428 arrived on a 73, 19703 was apparently on an X5 from Cambridge and 18104 had done the 0832 50. I do hope it won't take another hour to do 3 miles to get home like it did to get here!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on June 12, 2019, 04:04:03 PM
This morning the radar suffered a complete meltdown on me so no buses to study at all but hundreds of bus stops which now appear to have been added to the bus times site. The trouble is I know where the bus stops are. What I want to know is where is my bus to get to work on time. I see we have only had the revised timetable 5 months before they have changed it again so I will have to adjust to the new timings.

On another soggy morning with traffic snailing along I decided I would cover the 0839 convoy as I had a one in three chance of a bus producing. This turned out to be a wise decision as the convoy only consisted of 19703 on the 81 but that would do me. 18336 and 18423 were noted on 1's but very little else but at least 27646 was in position for the 6 to work. However, that means very little as the driver appeared at departure time and after a period of fiddling about in the cab, boldly declared that it was the wrong bus and he was meant to be driving a 5 anyway and off he went!!! Great stuff so where was the driver for the 6 as it was now 4 minutes after departure time? Finally the driver showed up and we set off 7 minutes late (again) passing orange 15405 to form the 0932 50. I got to the office on a plus 5 to beat the clock when it should have been a more comfortable plus 12. The radar and the drivers seem to be on a mission this week to make me late for work.

The radar was still not working when I checked at lunchtime but a peek 10 minutes ago reveals the buses are back on the site to be monitored. Interestingly 27646 which was my 6 to work is now on the 99 along with 36937 but whether I believe the latter is another matter as the vehicle was in Bedford bus station!

19890 is on an X5 from Cambridge, 15402 was the 1432 50, 19083 the 1537 50, 18419 on a 6, 34428 on a 53 and 18423 on a 53A. We are not out of the woods yet as 19703 was showing being in Clapham on an 81 and 19892 in Oakley also on an 81 so maybe a pinch of salt is required at what I am viewing...
 :-X
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: tomfrombedford on June 12, 2019, 04:32:19 PM
27645 is on 51 right now sporting a fresh lick of paint- shame they missed returning the seats, especially on the 2752X E300’s theyre looking extremely tatty now. Also saw 34428 on 53, 19893 on the 73 and also for the first time since the coasthopper bunch joined us it was the first time I’ve seen the bus station free from any E200mmc’s or soslows!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on June 14, 2019, 01:40:21 PM
Owing to being in slow speed mode this morning I missed the 9B and 81 into town and a study of the radar showed a 30 minute gap until the next service as the 0839 9 from Shortstown was not showing up so they still can't manage to get two buses on the 9. I turned up to join the crowd for 19892 on the 9A which was showing two stops away at 0905 but it was another 10 minutes before it finally reached us packed to the rafters. Clearly the 9 had not produced 15 minutes in front of it so somehow they have made an already bad timetable worse this week. So yet again I was late for work as I found myself on the late 0935 6 with 36936 making it three late office arrivals in the first week of the re-shaped 9 timetable.

The only reason I wasn't late yesterday was due to working from home. I acknowledge the buses seem to be poorer when it is raining as more road rats seem to magically appear when it is wet adding to the congestion, and it has been extremely wet this week, so I can only hope next week in drier conditions the timekeeping might improve.

I have always marvelled at how some of Bedford's bus fleet protest at being reversed out of the bay and then stall which happens to me on a monthly basis. Thankfully I had got off 19892 when it set back on a 9A to Hitchin and promptly seized up about 10 yards from bay G blocking other vehicles like the 5 trying to squeeze past. All part of the great conspiracy to make me later for work by trying to prevent 36936 departing on the 6. Another driver had to act as a traffic cop to guide us out and carefully negotiate the stricken E400 whilst its driver got onto his mobile for help. I assume the bus was eventually swapped as I note it is now on route 5 as I type this.

Other stuff noted today were 19084 and 19087 on 50's, 18336 did the 0845 73 but is now on 41's, 34428 is also on 41's 18423 was on 5's but is now on an 81, 27646 is showing on 99's and 18419 has to make do with 48033, 37433 and 36937 for company on 1's.

I see Bedford is blessed with rail replacement buses all weekend for half a day each working to Luton so one wonders what piffle that will produce?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: tomfrombedford on June 14, 2019, 02:59:40 PM
Despite today’s better weather, the 5 still manages to lose 2 buses with a 26 minute gap, and then to add insult to injury 36302 turns up having to carry 2 loads. Noticed 48033 on the 5’s as well yesterday so obviojsly Bedford are short on full size buses.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Emms1 on June 18, 2019, 07:46:25 PM
finally managed to get on one of the Ex London E200s on the 5 yesterday, it was chaos due to the presence of 5 shopping trollies and more passengers than seats, it seems to be less practical than a solo, and I found myself thinking only 2 years back I would try and get on a grant palmer bus because you never knew what would turn up but now the shocks come from stagecoach.
also I've been shocked that to date I have not seen them deploy a long E300 on the X5 a I remember when they used to use PSs and Wright Renown on the X5 occasionally (funnily enough it was a ride from St. Neots to oxford on a PS - with the door open for the whole journey, I miss them days - in the summer of '08 which first got me in to buses)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on June 18, 2019, 10:23:05 PM
finally managed to get on one of the Ex London E200s on the 5 yesterday, it was chaos due to the presence of 5 shopping trollies and more passengers than seats, it seems to be less practical than a solo, and I found myself thinking only 2 years back I would try and get on a grant palmer bus because you never knew what would turn up but now the shocks come from stagecoach.
also I've been shocked that to date I have not seen them deploy a long E300 on the X5 a I remember when they used to use PSs and Wright Renown on the X5 occasionally (funnily enough it was a ride from St. Neots to oxford on a PS - with the door open for the whole journey, I miss them days - in the summer of '08 which first got me in to buses)

The ex London Enviro 200's are unsuitable for most of Bedford's routes. They're simply too small. I've said it before. They'd be better off sending them to Fenstanton in exchange for two Darts
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: tomfrombedford on June 19, 2019, 01:54:41 PM
Yesterday I was treated to 27520 on the 5; like most of Bedford’s fleet it too isn’t running well-as I boarded a passenger was alighting and told the bus driver the seats at the back (above the engine) were boiling hot, so naturally I had to investigate and I could feel the heat before I had sat down-the engine was sounding particularly croaky too which is never a good sign.
48033 dragged me to Kempston on the 1 at peak which was very cosy.

In regards to the short E200’s, why can’t stagecoach put them on the solo routes so then the darts/E200/MMCs can spend less time on the solo routes? I agree though, the short E200’s are massively inappropriate for Bedford, the capacity is even less than the SR’s we have now!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Emms1 on June 19, 2019, 02:03:30 PM
The ex London Enviro 200's are unsuitable for most of Bedford's routes. They're simply too small. I've said it before. They'd be better off sending them to Fenstanton in exchange for two Darts
As the darts basically live on the 66/35 that would be a bit of a struggle as the 66 carries a large amount of passengers especially going to Hinchingbrooke from Brampton and Buckden and the one that leaves Huntingdon at about 4.30 is usually full with standing passengers.   
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: tomfrombedford on June 19, 2019, 02:54:14 PM
I’m hoping the tracker is broken today as there are currently only two 5’s out and they’re both on Queen’s drive
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on June 19, 2019, 05:14:23 PM
The tracker was certainly broken all day on Monday as I played guess when the bus will turn up just like in the old days. In the morning 19129 and 37048 enlivened the scene at the bus station by depositing a handful of passengers on the W7. I was always under the impression they were meant to unload at the railway station but when you think about it that is pretty pointless. Anyone who lives in Wellingborough will do the train to London so the only passengers to use the bus in the morning would be those who work in Bedford and therefore the bus station is more convenient then the railway station. On my way home 19893 was on the 1745 to MK on what was probably the MK short.

Tuesday I was off work so I deliberated whether to do the 0656 or 0726 X5 to Cambridge. I decided the night before to have an extra half hour in bed which turned out to be the right decision. Not only was I rewarded with 19888 on the 0726, I also took some satisfaction in arriving at St Neots where a big crowd were waiting for us. I found out why a bit further along the route where 54304 was dumped having burst on the 0656 so I would not have got to Cambridge earlier. After a day in Norfolk and Suffolk I returned home on 54315 on the 1945 through the monsoon for 36935 home on the 2115 9.

The timetable adjustment appears to have reduced the 0839 convoy to two buses as 18419 had already gone on the 9 by the time I turned up so I had 19699 on the 9B this morning as 19700 followed on the 81.  In the meantime 19701 had departed on the 0826 X5 to Cambridge and 39683 had done the 0832 50. 18336 and 48032 were both on 1's. 27523 took me top work on the 6 and left 5 minutes late again despite the bus being in position well before departure time. I have noticed in the last few weeks that I am constantly having 27xxx vehicles on the 6 now which was a pain when it happened previously and is starting to grate again.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Julia_Hayward on June 19, 2019, 10:25:19 PM
Was that the failure that got left in St Neots, Cambridge Street? If so it was still there in the evening, causing mayhem with the traffic...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on June 20, 2019, 12:57:48 PM
Was that the failure that got left in St Neots, Cambridge Street? If so it was still there in the evening, causing mayhem with the traffic...

Possibly not as 54304 was parked at the bus stop in the High St just before Church St which the X5 doesn't use. However, it would be getting in the way of other service buses so maybe someone moved it to Cambridge St later.

As I had 19699 on the 9B and 27523 on the 6 to get to work yesterday it was only fitting that I had 27523 on the 6 and 19699 on the 1800 9A to get home. 37059 was on the 9B and 19087 on the 1805 50.

19087 was back again this morning on the 0832 50 whilst 18336 and 34428 were on 53's, 18424 on 1's and 18419 on 9A's but no evidence of 18423 anywhere.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on June 20, 2019, 06:02:07 PM
Interestingly, Ross Barton, Operations Director, Stagecoach East, chatting informally with attendees at last Saturday's Cambridge Area Bus Users Annual General Meeting agreed with what has been said on this thread about the unsuitability of the Elites for the X5 route.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on June 20, 2019, 07:27:57 PM
Interestingly, Ross Barton, Operations Director, Stagecoach East, chatting informally with attendees at last Saturday's Cambridge Area Bus Users Annual General Meeting agreed with what has been said on this thread about the unsuitability of the Elites for the X5 route.

In my opinion they're the worst vehicles ever to operate the route. Very unreliable causing Bedford to use unsuitable vehicles on other routes whilst the E400's or B9R's are covering for a failed elite on the X5. An E300 is not the best vehicle for the 99 for example
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on June 21, 2019, 01:56:48 PM
They have had a bad morning today on the X5 with 19703, 19704, 19706 and 19890 all performing to Cambridge which is probably why 37435 and 37439 are on the 1's with 18419. I wish the Elite's were around when the olys were here as I would be going to Cambridge every day to stack up the mileages. 18336, 34428 and 36301 were all viewed on 5's after I had done 19698 on the 9B and before doing 27521 to work on the 6. Now 18423 and 18424 can't be picked up on the radar.

My reward for a day at work yesterday was to be treated to 48033 on the 6 and 48034 on the 3 to get home albeit the latter was self-inflicted as it was one of the four vehicles in Bedford's allocation I had not ridden on this year. Both 37047 and 37071 were on W7's.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on June 24, 2019, 01:17:56 PM
Last Friday my buses home were 34428 on the 6 and 34829 on the 9 whilst 37061 and 37062 were on W7's. On Saturday I spent another day in Norfolk and my chariot to Cambridge on the 0725 from MK was 19698. All vehicles that passed the other way were Elite's, so apart from 19890 that did one return trip, the X5's were by and large what they were meant to be.

However, this morning there were three E400's on the X5 around St Neots in close proximity as 19893 was on the 0725 from MK, with 19699 on the 0800 from Cambridge followed by 19705 on the 0815.

18108 did the 0832 50 but apart from 18419 which was on 5's, but now showing on 53's, there is no trace of the other three tridents. Route 1 that normally has one or two knocking about on them had none this morning as patrons were treated to 34830, 34831 and 27521 with two E400's. Other snippets show 27642 on the 99, 34428 on 73's and 48032 on 2's which is one of the three Bedford buses I need to be on to reel it in for the year. I had to make do with 19700 on the 9B and 27645 on the 6 today.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on June 25, 2019, 01:02:44 PM
37439 was my 6 into town yesterday for 19700 home on the 9A with both 37050 and 37110 on W7's.

The MK to Cambridge X5 this morning was again an E400 with 19889 whilst 19699 was on the 0800 from Cambridge but this didn't prevent me from having 19890 on the 9 into town for the usual type of bus 27522 to work on the 6.  I have found 18424 today on the 5's whilst 18419 is on 1's with 27523 and 37435 but no trace of 18336 or 18423 on the system. 27643 is today's choice for the 99 following on from 27642 yesterday.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on June 25, 2019, 06:22:59 PM
Peterborough's Enviro 200 37216 (SN64OKR) was in Bedford this morning being driven by a fitter. Does anyone know why it was in Bedford?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: skyLink on June 25, 2019, 06:34:03 PM
Peterborough's Enviro 200 37216 (SN64OKR) was in Bedford this morning being driven by a fitter. Does anyone know why it was in Bedford?

Mot at a punt.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on June 27, 2019, 01:45:27 PM
Yesterday I went to Cambridge and for the third time in a row it was on an E400, this time 19699 obliging on the 0656 X5. And like Saturday it took 2 hours to complete the journey. The first service bus I viewed at Parkside was 36043. Later in the day after getting back from Norwich, the first bus viewed at Parkside was 36043 and the 1810 X5 to Bedford was 19699. I seem to get a lot of deja vouz when I travel with Stagecoach. Had I got back earlier I could have had 19703 on the 1725 but a check on the radar suggested 19699 was the only E400 Left for me. Typically winner 11127 was on the 1810 50 whilst I was miles away.

I was not best pleased after Cambourne when 19888 passed heading for Cambridge presumably for the 1910 which I would have preferred in having a different bus home from the outward. It was still not showing on the radar but the Elite five minutes behind it was on the system. Before we got to Cambourne there was an errant trident looking sorry for itself with the driver standing on the roadside. It might have been 18414 but it was a bit too far away for my eyesight. I assume the two fire engines that stormed past us a few minutes later were not for the trident.

I had expected to be on the 1930 9 or 81 to get home as we arrived slightly early in Bedford but unless they had cloaking devices I did not see either service so had to settle for 37435 on the 1945 9. This little fester also allowed me the privilege of seeing the unfortunates commence their bus station takeover in terms of begging, swearing and shouting at each other and where they hope to doss for the night. At least at train stations there is a manned barrier so the passengers on the platform get to escape this sort of behaviour. So side-tracked by the racket being made I nearly missed seeing 18419 which appeared to be on 1's and 18424 that was on 2's.

There was to be no shaking off of 19699 as it was my 9B into town this morning to make 34828 on the 0859 6. 18419 and 18424 were both on 1's and I am assuming the worst for the other two that have eluded my eyes for over a fortnight.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: tomfrombedford on June 28, 2019, 02:59:02 PM
Have just seen 48034 going down Norse Road towards go outdoors showing as 3 Fenlake on the tracker but NIS on the bus-I wonder if it’s heading off somewhere?
In other news, my chariot to town is 36045 on the 5, have also noticed repainted 27645 on the route. Yesterday evening was fun with 48025 on a peak time 5 to Elms farm.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on July 01, 2019, 01:45:08 PM
18336 has reappeared on the scene and is today on 1's with 18424, 27520 and 27643. 18419 was out on 5's but I have not seen 18423 since 11 June so has it been binned?

My buses to work today were 19703 on the 9B and 19699 on the 6 which is starting to stalk me now.  Plenty of E400's to spare with 19700 and 19890 on 73's, 19698 on the 0730 MK to Cambridge X5 and 19889 is also on X5's to Cambridge.

I have managed to miss two winners whilst being inconvenienced by work as 11127 did the 0932 50 and 39692 the 1232 50. The 1332 50 appears to be 15402 as often the 0932 does the 1332 but not today.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on July 01, 2019, 05:59:00 PM
18336 has reappeared on the scene and is today on 1's with 18424, 27520 and 27643. 18419 was out on 5's but I have not seen 18423 since 11 June so has it been binned?

My buses to work today were 19703 on the 9B and 19699 on the 6 which is starting to stalk me now.  Plenty of E400's to spare with 19700 and 19890 on 73's, 19698 on the 0730 MK to Cambridge X5 and 19889 is also on X5's to Cambridge.

I have managed to miss two winners whilst being inconvenienced by work as 11127 did the 0932 50 and 39692 the 1232 50. The 1332 50 appears to be 15402 as often the 0932 does the 1332 but not today.

18336 (AE55DJV) has just had a new MOT. 18423 (AE06GZV )is currently broken at the depot
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on July 03, 2019, 01:36:17 PM
After having 19699 to work on the 6 on Monday I was treated to 19702 on the 6 after work and then 18419 home on the 1830 81.

It is always the way that as soon as I observe that a bus is missing that it makes a Lazarus style comeback the next day and sure enough 18423 magically reappeared on the 1's yesterday alongside 18424. I was working from home yesterday but had to go into town for the last part of my trilogy with the dentist so I came to witness 18423. I did 19701 on the 9B into town and noted 18419 on 53's, 18336 on 9's, 19704 on 2's, 15403 on the 0832 50 and 19706 was showing on the radar on the 0850 X5 from Cambridge whilst 27644 was showing on a 99 in Clapham of all places. My bus home was 19699 on the 9A so still stalking me.

I am back in the office today and had 19705 on the 9B whilst 19699 was on the 0726 X5 to Cambridge so I should be free of it this time. 18423 did the 0900 81, 18336 was on 1's, 18419 on 9's and 39682 on the 0932 50 but I was saddled with 27520 on the 6 where these things have made their home.

I should mention that 37039, 37050 and 37051 have been observed on W7's so this type of product is taking over the rail replacements.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on July 04, 2019, 01:21:48 PM
No surprises that 27521 was my 6 from work yesterday. A check of the radar showed 19888 on the 1810 X5 from Cambridge and 18423 seemingly 40 late on a 9B from Hitchin which then appeared to go straight into the garage as it stopped moving so maybe it had flaked out again. 19698 took me home on the 1830 81 whilst 18424 arrived on a 9B.

This morning the 9B into town was not being picked up on the system so I went for the 0909 9 with 19888. However, the 9B duly appeared first even though it was invisible on the radar running 15 minutes late as ever. I would have preferred the vehicle to be invisible again as it was my stalker 19699 which I can't seem to shake off.

If 18423 had a problem yesterday afternoon it was back on the road on a 1 but it wasn't long before it swapped to a 9B leaving 18419 and 18424 on the Kempston runs. For a change my bus to work on the 6 was 37434. I haven't seen much recently of old regulars 19083 and 19084 on the 50 but that was put right this morning as both were on the route. 34428 continues to operate on 73's or at least it appears that way.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on July 05, 2019, 01:17:08 PM
As I had 19699 on the 9A and 37434 on the 6 to get to work yesterday it was only appropriate to have 37433 on the 6 and 19700 on the 1800 9A to get home for the symmetry effect.

This morning I can't explain the disappearance of my bus 18424 which had set sail from Shortstown running 30 late on the 0807 departure. Quite a feat to be that late on a journey that should only take 22 minutes. Whilst waiting at the stop 18424 just stopped in Mile Road on the radar  with no sign of movement. It was like Stan Butler was driving and it just stopped outside someone's house. In the meantime 37431 had set off on the 0837 9 and watching it on the radar it wasn't long before it overtook 18424 which had still not budged an inch so I had to do the single deck into town.

I had contacted the office to warn them I would be a little late as winner 11127 was on the 0932 50. Whilst waiting for the gold top, 18424 started moving on the radar and eventually arrived at the bus station a cool 50 minutes late, well after it should have done the 0845 9. Is 75 minutes Shortstown to the bus station a new record slow for route 9? There can't have been much wrong with 18424 as it then did the 0930 9B.

In other news 18336 and 18419 were on 1's and 18423 on 53's. A quick scan at lunchtime reveals I missed winner 39687 on the 1232 50, 19704 did the 1226 X5 to Cambridge whilst crossing 19705 at St Neots on the 1210 X5 from Cambridge.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on July 09, 2019, 03:40:40 PM
The best bus by miles to appear in Bedford yesterday was "Lord Michael" K735 0DL on what appeared to be a school hire as I made my way to the bus station to do the 1126 X5 to Cambridge. I had to make do with 19704 which was also my chariot back later in the day on the 1610 from Cambridge passing 19890 on the 1541 X5 to Cambridge. The outward trip witnessed a forlorn 19889 sat demic outside Waitrose after conking out on a 5. I managed to view four 1's in the morning in the hands of 18419, 18423, 18424 and 48031. The other trident 18336 was on 73's. 19083, 15403, 39682 and 18108 were on the 50 route.

My bus to town today on the 9 was 18336 with the usual 27522 on my 6 to the office. I could have done 11138 on the 0932 50 but as it was dud I didn't bother. 18423 and 18424 were still going strong on 1's.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on July 09, 2019, 08:50:31 PM
The best bus by miles to appear in Bedford yesterday was "Lord Michael" K735 0DL on what appeared to be a school hire as I made my way to the bus station to do the 1126 X5 to Cambridge. I had to make do with 19704 which was also my chariot back later in the day on the 1610 from Cambridge passing 19890 on the 1541 X5 to Cambridge. The outward trip witnessed a forlorn 19889 sat demic outside Waitrose after conking out on a 5. I managed to view four 1's in the morning in the hands of 18419, 18423, 18424 and 48031. The other trident 18336 was on 73's. 19083, 15403, 39682 and 18108 were on the 50 route.

My bus to town today on the 9 was 18336 with the usual 27522 on my 6 to the office. I could have done 11138 on the 0932 50 but as it was dud I didn't bother. 18423 and 18424 were still going strong on 1's.

Leyland Olympian K735ODL is owned by Diamond Coaches and is in the livery of its former owners Youngs coaches of Cambridge.

Solo SR 48033 (YJ66ASU) was on a crush loaded 81 today. A totally unsuitable vehicle for the route.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Emms1 on July 10, 2019, 01:31:54 PM
Leyland Olympian K735ODL is owned by Diamond Coaches and is in the livery of its former owners Youngs coaches of Cambridge.

Solo SR 48033 (YJ66ASU) was on a crush loaded 81 today. A totally unsuitable vehicle for the route.
And at this current second I behold a large dart working the route 7 another totally inappropriate bus for a route!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: tomfrombedford on July 10, 2019, 09:58:44 PM
And at this current second I behold a large dart working the route 7 another totally inappropriate bus for a route!
Imo, the 7 is perfect for Darts- it’s more the 3/4/10 that needs the shorter buses. In the peaks the 7 can benefit from the extra space in the darts.

Today 19705 was my bus into town, 3743X was my bus on the 53 outbound, 36935 inbound on the 53 then 36301 on the 5 to Elms Farm.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on July 11, 2019, 12:52:46 PM
Leyland Olympian K735ODL is owned by Diamond Coaches and is in the livery of its former owners Youngs coaches of Cambridge.

Solo SR 48033 (YJ66ASU) was on a crush loaded 81 today. A totally unsuitable vehicle for the route.

Indeed Lord Michael is a Diamond bus you may recall in one of my posts I had it at the Wellingborough running day a few months back after doing a Youngs bus from Bedford on a rail replacement.

I was in perfect symmetry again yesterday as my bus to Oxford was 54301 on the X5 for 165121 to Didcot Parkway and the return journey was on 165122 and 54302 up a digit. I seem to be able to do this with nonchalant ease and no pre-planning.  27643 was at MK station on a 99 on my outward journey. Meanwhile my stalker 19699 was on the X5 but going the other way to Cambridge. 19701 was on the Cambridge section as well. Before I went to Oxford I managed to reel in winner 39687 on the 0850 50 from Kettering by way of having 18423 on a 9 and 34830 on a 51.

There were seven tridents working in Bedford yesterday in my absence with 18101 and 18108 on 50's, the usual GP704 on the 1640 44, 18419 and 18424 on 1's and 18336 and 18423 on 9's. However, 18424 was put on the 1245 81 and later did 6's whilst 18336 was purloined for 73's.

This morning more trident activity with 18101 and 18108 again on 50's and 18336 on 1's whilst I had 18419 on a 9B into town for 37435 to work on the 6. The radar showed 19705 on the 0800 X5 from Cambridge. 37044 was squatting in the bus station.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: HughT on July 11, 2019, 02:54:00 PM
Observed at Madingley Rd P&R around 1145 this morning: Enviro 400 19699 heading towards Cambridge on an X5. And 30 mins later, on the outskirts of St Neots, another eastbound X5 operated by yet another decker. Sorry, combined speeds of that bus and the Volvo Elite I was on made identification impossible!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on July 12, 2019, 02:00:50 PM
Observed at Madingley Rd P&R around 1145 this morning: Enviro 400 19699 heading towards Cambridge on an X5. And 30 mins later, on the outskirts of St Neots, another eastbound X5 operated by yet another decker. Sorry, combined speeds of that bus and the Volvo Elite I was on made identification impossible!

I suspect it could have been 19705 as that worked in from Cambridge so chances are it was sent back to Cambridge in the morning. This morning 19889 did the 0731 MK to Cambridge X5. 18424 and 48034 were on 1's, 18336 on a 5 and 18419 on a 9B. I had to settle for 19892 on the 9A and 37432 on a 6 to the office. 18423 has vanished from the radar again and 18101 and 18108 continue to invade Bedford on consecutive 50's from Kettering (0950/1050).
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on July 12, 2019, 06:40:31 PM
Cambridge Trident 18413 (AE06GZK) is at Bedford for repaint. This one has a short stint here in 2011 before the arrival of Enviro 400's 19888-93 (AE11FUD/F/G/H/J/M). According to Steven Knight Media this one and 18411/12/14/15 (AE06GZH/J//L/M) are due to be cascaded elsewhere within Stagecoach. Although they'd be useful at Bedford for the 9
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on July 16, 2019, 01:15:08 PM
On my way to Bristol on Sunday I had 34827 on the 9 and winner 39685 on the 1300 50 to Sainsburys for the walk to the station. I was surprised the 1256 X5 to Cambridge was 19888 as I viewed all of the X5's to Cambridge up to 9am on Saturday and it was total Elites so had not expected a decker on Sunday especially as 19698, 19699, 19700, 19701, 19702, 19704, 19705 and 19706 were at Silverstone. I assume this is why 18419 was viewed arriving on a 53 and then worked a 1 as I rarely see tridents in service whenever I am about on a Sunday.

Normality returned for me today as 37438 took me to town on the 9 for the 0911 6 which failed to run despite the vehicle being parked up. As is customary the driver ambled up to the 0923 after departure time so we left late on 27521 and I was late into work. Unlike the railways there does not appear to be any onus on a bus company to explain why a service does not run. It just vanishes from the departure screen once the booked time passes and that is it. Presumably there was no driver but it would have been helpful if the service showed as cancelled, as with the railway, and then I could have done the 0915 51.

18336, 18419 and 18424 were all on 1's with 34829, 36301 and 36302 were both on 2's and 39680 did the 0932 50. 19892 was on the 0856 X5 to Cambridge  and 19698 has since joined it on the route. 34829 then got ripped from the 1 and 27520 and 27522 were unleashed on the route instead. I have still not re-established contact with 18423 which is still not being picked up on the monitor.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on July 16, 2019, 02:42:57 PM
... Unlike the railways there does not appear to be any onus on a bus company to explain why a service does not run. It just vanishes from the departure screen once the booked time passes and that is it. Presumably there was no driver but it would have been helpful if the service showed as cancelled, as with the railway, and then I could have done the 0915 51.

My understanding is that the VIX system for the RTPI boards has been updated to allow for this. an Stagecoach have updated their interface to enable cancellations.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on July 17, 2019, 01:10:38 PM
It was rather curious that after having 37438 into town yesterday morning that it then went onto 6's and even more curious after work when I had 37434 on a 6 it then did the 1730 9B to Hitchin so I stayed on board. The fact that we left 20 late on the 1730 reveals they must have been short of a bus or two whilst 48034 was on 5's. To annoy me 39685, which I scored on Sunday, was coming in to form the 1812 50. 15402 had done the 1705 50 and 19893 was on the 1610 Cambridge to MK X5. 37046 was out on W7's.

This morning I was back in deja vouz mode as I repeated the same mistakes of yesterday. Like yesterday I had 37438 on the 9, and like yesterday, the 0911 6 was fresh air. Once again the bus station screens counted down the time for the 0911 to arrive and then disappeared from the screen to be replaced by the 0923 countdown. Three vehicles had come in on 6's and all parked up and the drivers walked away but anyone's guess why the 0911 did not produce as it was not due to a vehicle shortage. If we have the technology to inform us mugs that a service is cancelled it is not being used. One irate lady rang her work to inform them that the 0859 had not produced as well as the 0911 despite the fact the allocation of three vehicles were all in the bus station. Why is that? Two vehicles should be out on the route at the same time, one heading to Brickhill and one coming from Brickhill, not all three sitting there as static exhibits. I am not aware of any work to rule blighting route 6...

To continue the feeling that I was back in time by 24 hours, 18424 departed on a 1 and 36301 and 36302 departed on 2's. Exactly the same sequence of departures I witnessed yesterday during the period 0909 to 0923. The only difference to yesterday was witnessing 18336 on a 9B and 18419 on the 0845 73. Thankfully I won't be attempting to do the 0911 6 tomorrow so merciful relief.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Emms1 on July 17, 2019, 03:20:53 PM
Interesting spottings today were: 18336 on the  9a, 18424 on route 1, 36301 working a very busy flitwick 2 and 53618 working on a day time 81.
Also noted YJ66ASX and ASO are still in costhopper livery on the roof, 52437 (buttercup) was on driver training duties in Gt Barford and I must share with you the craftsmanship of this stop sign on 37434 image attached (http://)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on July 17, 2019, 05:06:50 PM
Long Sutton's Enviro 400 19068 (MX56FSZ) is at Bedford for repaint.
Bedford need to concentrate on repainting their own Enviro 400's or at least getting round to removing the 'citi' branding from the ex Peterborough examples. Also the still 5 Enviro 200 MMC's that still remain in coast hopper livery
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: tomfrombedford on July 18, 2019, 02:30:40 PM
That stop sign has been going almost since the MMC’s arrived in Bedford, makes me chuckle every time I see it! There’s another one of the MMC’s with that whole black bit missing and has been replaced with a rattly sheet of metal-that same bus also has one seat with the regular seat pattern on! Nice to see Bedford is taking care of the few newish vehicles we have!
Lots of the vehicles in the Bedford fleet are crying out for a repaint, in particular the E300’s.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on July 19, 2019, 01:40:19 PM
On Wednesday when I went home on 19704 on the 6, the 1705 50 was 35219, whilst 37055 was on a W7. The X5 appears to have been an Elite mess all week and on Wednesday 19705 and 19698 headed off to Cambridge as 19892 came in from Cambridge. Thursday was little better as 19704 was on the 0800 from Cambridge, 19699 did the 1026 to Cambridge and 19892 was ripped off a 9B and sent packing to Cambridge too.

I had to visit my office yesterday but not for work purposes which resulted in doing 19893 on a 9A, dud 39684 on the 1032 50, winner 39692 on the 1050 from Kettering 50 and 19704 home on a 9B after coming in on an X5. In other news 15404 was 27 minutes late with the inbound working to form the 0932 50, 18424 and 37431 were viewed on 1's, 18336 was on a 53 but swapped to a 1 and 18419 changed from 73's to 5's. 36302 was still going strong on 2's.

This morning I had 19703 on a 9 and 19890 on the 0923 6 to work as I didn't trust the 0911 to produce. 15403 was on the 0932 50 and looking rather silly with an enlarged 3 dwarfing the other numerals on the front of the bus. Clearly a crisis at Kettering depot in wrong size 3's. 36301 was now on 1's alongside 18419, 18424 was on 9A's, 48032 on 2's and 18336 on 5's and still no trace of 18423.

The X5 is still inundated with double deckers as the 0800 from Cambridge completed a full week of not having an Elite on it with 19706 the chosen vehicle which turned straight back at 0926 for Cambridge. 19698 apparently did the 0656 to Cambridge and 19702 was on the 0731 from MK.

Former green Frog hopper buses abounded with 37431 on a 1, 37432 on a 51, 37437 on a 73 and 37439 on a 5.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: tomfrombedford on July 21, 2019, 04:25:09 PM
As luck would have it, 37435 delivered me to town on a 7 today, complete with a regular seat covering and metal sheeted stop sign alternative!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Steven Knight Media on July 22, 2019, 12:57:07 PM
The open top FLF (19952) was moved to Bedford (from storage at Ely) this morning. It is planned to use it on the shuttle services which will operate in connection with the depot Open Day on 10th August
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on July 22, 2019, 01:18:33 PM
The open top FLF (19952) was moved to Bedford (from storage at Ely) this morning. It is planned to use it on the shuttle services which will operate in connection with the depot Open Day on 10th August

No 14000?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on July 22, 2019, 02:05:26 PM
On Saturday I was toying with the idea of going to Cambridge if a decker appeared and an early morning check on the radar was of no assistance at all as Leyland Olympians 14335, 14338 and 14350 were all on the X5 so no clue at all as to whether these were supposedly Elites or E400's as the numbers bore no similarity to the current fleet. So that was the fantasy world but in the real world, at the same time as the nonsense spouted on the X5, the radar showed winner 39689 was on the 0610 50 so I had missed that. The first 1's of the day were 18419 and 18424 but the strain was too much for the system and it blew up completely by 0630 so no gen at all.

Consequently I abandoned Cambridge as I had no desire to stand at the bus station for however long, viewing each half hourly departure, so I did 19888 on the first 73 of the day into town and spent the day at the Epping to Ongar beer festival spinning around on winner RMA11, ably supported by RF636, RML899, RT3238 and RTL1076. Sadly Toothill was out of bounds thanks to road works. Who would have thought a local authority can afford road works in a remote part of Essex to wipe out the 381 but there you go. I got back to Bedford in time for the last 9 of the day with 19704.

The schools may have finished but the black hole in services on route 9 is still unplugged. I wasn't ready to do 27642 on the 0839 9 which means a rancid 30 minutes gap to the 0909 9A which just happened to be 7 minutes late, despite no school traffic, with 19706 so 37 minutes without a bus for people trying to get to work. Are Stagecoach Bedford aware of flexible working hours in offices? Why is it when they make timetable amendments, spouting off that it will improve services, it somehow makes it even worse. In what way does reducing the frequency from 12 minutes to 15, and then making another change where there is a 30 minutes gap in the morning, constitute a claim that things are better? Let me guess that this alteration was drawn up by someone who drives everywhere, never uses a bus but just happens to work for a bus company and no doubt earns more than me for impeding my attempts to get to work.

Today the individual concerned can feel proud of their efforts in that by the time I reached town I had missed the 0923 6, the last service to get me to work on time, so I had to do 36935 on the 0935. So only 15 minutes late arriving at the office thanks to the 0854 being deferred to 0909 in the recent timetable adjustments at my local stop.

In other piffle, the 0800 from Cambridge X5 dropped again with 19702 where it was parked up on arrival and an Elite was sent back to Cambridge. Three 50's in a row were 15402, 15403 and 15404 as someone in allocations looking for a bit of symmetry, 18336 and 18419 were on 1's whilst 18424 worked a 51.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Steven Knight Media on July 23, 2019, 08:18:55 AM
No 14000?

Yes, it will be moved over on the day but will be on static display.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on July 23, 2019, 12:45:58 PM

Yes, it will be moved over on the day but will be on static display.

Thanks. I assume this means no step entrance uses will be used on the shuttles.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on July 23, 2019, 12:53:29 PM
After having 36935 to work on the 6 yesterday my bus from the office was 36936. 36045 was my 9 home after noting 48025 working an 81 to Luton. For the first time I viewed a trident on the W7 with 18406 parked in River St.

The X5 is in a mess this morning with 19890 on the 1010 from Cambridge, 19700 on the 1110 from Cambridge, 19698 on the 1056 to Cambridge and 19699 on the 1126 to Cambridge.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Steven Knight Media on July 23, 2019, 02:25:12 PM
Thanks. I assume this means no step entrance uses will be used on the shuttles.

The shuttle services should be worked by the open top FLF and the Cancer Research UK 'Race for Life' Scania/E400 from Cambridge. This will provide low floor departures on both shuttle routes
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: John Wakefield on July 23, 2019, 05:43:42 PM
I would think Stagecoach are finding it difficult to find drivers these days who can handle the manual crash gearbox on the FLF
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Steven Knight Media on July 24, 2019, 11:35:32 AM
I would think Stagecoach are finding it difficult to find drivers these days who can handle the manual crash gearbox on the FLF

Spot on John. I gather an issue with crash box vehicles around the country.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on July 24, 2019, 12:07:24 PM
I would think Stagecoach are finding it difficult to find drivers these days who can handle the manual crash gearbox on the FLF

Are they crash on all gears? I’d kind of assumed they would’ve been synchro on 3rd/4th at least.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: John Wakefield on July 24, 2019, 12:23:04 PM
Are they crash on all gears? I’d kind of assumed they would’ve been synchro on 3rd/4th at least.

No syncro on a FLF, full crash gearbox except for an overdrive top which can be a b*****d to come out of back to 4th gear.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Emms1 on July 25, 2019, 01:07:09 PM
36935 on 4/10 a rather interesting experience especially down Brookfield road, the boundary and cricket lane especially as there was a solo working the 5.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Julia_Hayward on July 25, 2019, 03:11:49 PM
Cambridge an Elite-free zone this morning peak as 19888, 53615, 19891 were consecutive arrivals on the X5.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on July 25, 2019, 03:23:14 PM
Cambridge an Elite-free zone this morning peak as 19888, 53615, 19891 were consecutive arrivals on the X5.

There's at least 3 useless Elites off the road at the moment.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Julia_Hayward on July 25, 2019, 07:13:16 PM
Thanks to the online bus map, could see four E400s on the road this afternoon east of Bedford, plus 53615 again. Really not happy that our end of the route gets the worst of it!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on July 25, 2019, 07:28:10 PM
Thanks to the online bus map, could see four E400s on the road this afternoon east of Bedford, plus 53615 again. Really not happy that our end of the route gets the worst of it!

The services that suffer the most from a shortage of coaches are Bedford town services especially the 1 and 9. They have endure sometimes crushloaded Solo's and Darts instead of E400's becuase those useless Elites aren't fit for purpose and need to be withdrawn and replaced!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Julia_Hayward on July 26, 2019, 03:32:27 PM
Hopefully the powers that be will see sense and when the next ten Scanias arrive in Cambridge and displace E400s, they can go towards strengthening Bedford's fleet rather than scrapping off the oldest Tridents. (That is, after padding out Cambridge's fleet enough that we can dispense with the smallest Darts on the citi 2!)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on July 26, 2019, 05:26:56 PM
Hopefully the powers that be will see sense and when the next ten Scanias arrive in Cambridge and displace E400s, they can go towards strengthening Bedford's fleet rather than scrapping off the oldest Tridents. (That is, after padding out Cambridge's fleet enough that we can dispense with the smallest Darts on the citi 2!)


Chance will be a fine thing. The 08 plate E200's Cambridge pinched from Bedford for the Citi 2 would be very useful if they returned as well as some extra E400's that would see off the remaining 9 Darts
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Emms1 on July 26, 2019, 10:03:05 PM


Chance will be a fine thing. The 08 plate E200's Cambridge pinched from Bedford for the Citi 2 would be very useful if they returned as well as some extra E400's that would see off the remaining 9 Darts

Fenstanton also deserves something a bit better, as their darts strain on the 66 along the A1.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on July 26, 2019, 10:27:15 PM
Fenstanton also deserves something a bit better, as their darts strain on the 66 along the A1.



Apart from for the Busway which seems to be the main priority for Stagecoach East. Fenstanton are at the bottom of the pecking order for newer vehicles. As what was done when they received the 04 plate Darts from Peterborough to replace their ex Bedford 53 plate Darts. They will again most likely get whatever Bedford and Peterborough don't want so their 04 plate Darts will probably be replaced by 06 plate Darts from either Bedford or Peterborough whenever those are released.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Steven Knight Media on July 29, 2019, 11:27:36 AM
Apart from for the Busway which seems to be the main priority for Stagecoach East. Fenstanton are at the bottom of the pecking order for newer vehicles. As what was done when they received the 04 plate Darts from Peterborough to replace their ex Bedford 53 plate Darts. They will again most likely get whatever Bedford and Peterborough don't want so their 04 plate Darts will probably be replaced by 06 plate Darts from either Bedford or Peterborough whenever those are released.

It is quite a complex process when bids are made for new vehicles. The business case needs to look at the income potential, both current and ongoing to justify the new vehicles. As I understand it the operating company does not have to cover the full cost of the new vehicles as soon as they are delivered, but they do get charged a depreciation amount each four week period.That means that for a new bus the monthly coast could be, as an example, between £750 and £1000. That is why marginal earning routes get cascaded mid-life vehicles and not new vehicles. There will always be routes/depots that do not get new buses but mid-life replacements.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: tomfrombedford on July 30, 2019, 08:21:17 PM
New/visiting in Bedford is 19586 from Cambridge, has spent its day on 1’a.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on July 31, 2019, 01:50:23 PM
New/visiting in Bedford is 19586 from Cambridge, has spent its day on 1’a.

Thanks. After returning from the Isle of Man, I looked on the radar this morning and saw 19586 showing up on the 0800 9A and thought the system was throwing another wobbly. At least my first bus back to work this morning was on a winner 39686 on the 0936 50. I have now had to advise the boss that if a future winner shows up for the morning 50 I will be four minutes later getting to the office as the 50 route timetable changed on 28 July in my absence.

18336 did a 9B before going onto route 6 and 18419 was on 1's and 18423 on 53's. Tragically 48034 was on 5's, 19702 did the 0856 X5 to Cambridge and the good old 0800 from Cambridge was 19893 so the 0556 from Bedford service is still going strong for E400's as it was before I disappeared last Tuesday. 19705 worked the 0830 X5 from Cambridge and 19890 did the 0726 to Cambridge.

I have just noticed 39683 is on the 1336 50 and 27520 is heading towards MK on a 99.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on August 01, 2019, 02:03:55 PM
I had to suffer the consequences of leaving early from work yesterday as my crate on route 6 was 48034 but at least I could have winner 19586 on a 9A/B to get home as it had trundled back and forth along the route all day. Alas no, as it was ripped and plonked onto 5's instead so I was withered. Cheers then! I had to make do with 19706 on the 9A. Curiously 19888 arrived on a 5 in the Cambridge bay so either it was an X5 minus the X or it was about to go onto an X5 service straight off a 5.

One thing noticeable was a disturbing number of Hitchin services reduced to single deckers brought on by the lazy Elites doing nothing rather like the so called elite in Parliament. If you want something to do the job it is meant to do then don't refer to a bus type as an Elite as it is inviting ridicule...

The Northampton buses having a change of scenery on the W7 were 37049, 37064, 36163 and 37060 in that order.

This morning's carts to work were 19700 on the 9 and 15405 on the 0936 50 as I was late for work which was self inflicted after a dose of TV-itus. Of interest 19704 was on the other 9 diagram so a bit of a surprise they could be spared from the X5. As ever the 0800 X5 from Cambridge dropped 19893, same vehicle as yesterday, 19705 did the 0726 to Cambridge whilst 19699 was on the 0910 from Cambridge.

It is the turn of 27642 today to enjoy a day on the 99's.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: chopper on August 01, 2019, 08:11:11 PM
I was in St. Neots for a few hours today and all the X5s that I saw were Elites. I do wonder whether double deckers are substituted in the early mornings to provide additional seating into Cambridge. Just a thought.

Slightly off topic but that was a Guided Busway double decker on the 66 to Huntingdon. 
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on August 02, 2019, 01:56:27 PM
I was in St. Neots for a few hours today and all the X5s that I saw were Elites. I do wonder whether double deckers are substituted in the early mornings to provide additional seating into Cambridge. Just a thought.

Slightly off topic but that was a Guided Busway double decker on the 66 to Huntingdon.

To be fair I only spotted three E400's on the X5 yesterday whereas the previous day I noted five so it may well be that some of the poorly named Elite's have returned. I have again counted three E400's on the X5 this morning with the solid 0800 from Cambridge producing 19890, whilst 19702 did the 0656 to Cambridge and 19699 was on the 0731 from MK.

My buses home yesterday were 27646 on a 6 and 19704 on a 9. 27642's jolly jaunt on the 99 can't have lasted long as it passed me on a 6. This morning my buses to work were 18424 on a 9 and 37435 on the 0911 6 which left five minutes late awaiting a driver. 18424 then got swapped onto route 5. The other three tridents were all out on 1's. 15405 did the 0836 50 and 11126 passed me inbound to form the 0936 50.

I was not able to trace 19586 this morning on the radar so I could attempt to have it...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Julia_Hayward on August 02, 2019, 04:25:55 PM
I was in St. Neots for a few hours today and all the X5s that I saw were Elites. I do wonder whether double deckers are substituted in the early mornings to provide additional seating into Cambridge. Just a thought.

Definitely not capacity reasons, when the Elites run they are at most 70% full. And in the evening, even when the 1725 from Cambridge is cancelled (which it regularly is) the 1740 rarely gets completely full.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: HughT on August 02, 2019, 05:27:48 PM
Julia will be amazed to find out that the 1725 is actually running this evening! I'm watching it right now on the Smart Cambridge live bus map...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Julia_Hayward on August 02, 2019, 07:29:32 PM
Yay! Sadly I didn't get into town early enough, and the 1740 was significantly late.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on August 06, 2019, 01:27:43 PM
On Saturday I did the 0826 X5 to Cambridge which was 19888 which was a sound move as it appeared to be the only decker in service on the route that morning. After a day in Norfolk and Suffolk I dared to go home on the 2340 to Bedford with 54316. It is the first time I have ever done the last service of the day from Cambridge.

Yesterday 18336, 18423 and 18424 were noted on 1's whilst 18101 was on a 50. My buses home were 19891 on a 6 and 19698 on the 1745 9 which departed before 19706 on the 1730 9B. However, some people missed the 1745 after being instructed to go to gate L when in fact 19698 left from G. Still it makes a change that someone actually came out of the office to explain why the 1730 was so late and advising people the 1745 would go first so I won't knock it. 28627 and 37110 were out on W7's.

This morning I had 19889 on a 9A and 27523 on a 6. 18336 was on a 9A to Hitchin, 18419 and 18423 were on 1's and 18424 arrived empty from the garage. The trusty 0800 X5 from Cambridge was 19706, with 19704 behind it on the 0815 from Cambridge. For good measure the 0910 from Cambridge was 19698. By lunchtime this had changed as 19698 went onto Hitchin's, 18336 went on to 5's, 18424 took over 9's and 11127 did the 1236 50.

I see 20215 is meant to be in Bedford on Saturday. Now that should be used in service, far better than any of the 27xxx piffle.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on August 08, 2019, 12:49:58 PM
My bus home on Tuesday on the 9 was 18424. Just as well I missed the 81 to Luton as that was 36301. It's mate 36302 was ripped from the 2 and replaced by 19706 whilst 37048 was on a W7.

My 9 into town today was 19891 whilst 18336 did a 9A and the other three tridents were on 1's so very little change there. 11127 did the 0836 50 and 19701 produced for the 0731 X5 from MK to Cambridge. 19889 had apparently done the 0656 to Cambridge but there was no info on the 0800 from Cambridge as it was not tracked by the looks of it unless it was caped which seems unlikely. The usual fare of 27520 conveyed me to work on the 6 and in the meantime route 81 customers were having their second treat of the week with 36302... :o
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Emms1 on August 08, 2019, 01:12:42 PM
Only one interesting spotting in Bedford today and that was 36302 working an 81, what a luxurious journey that must have been in what I call one of the big brother buses due to the unbelievably large number of CCTV cameras, it's like something out of Orwells 1984, a bit excessive I think.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Habbinman on August 08, 2019, 02:34:39 PM
I would think Stagecoach are finding it difficult to find drivers these days who can handle the manual crash gearbox on the FLF
Sounds like I might have to come out of retirement to drive it ??  There was only 3 of us at Cambridge who "regularly" used to, or could, drive it ! Two of us have retired, leaving my cousin David, as the only one left, I believe, who has ever driven it.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on August 08, 2019, 03:48:41 PM
Bristols were a bit primitive, then, in comparison with the post-1956 Leyland Titan PD3/4 with synchromesh and, I believe, pre-selector gears.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on August 08, 2019, 05:41:43 PM
Only one interesting spotting in Bedford today and that was 36302 working an 81, what a luxurious journey that must have been in what I call one of the big brother buses due to the unbelievably large number of CCTV cameras, it's like something out of Orwells 1984, a bit excessive I think.

A totally unsuitable vehicle for the 81. This route can fill an E400 at times. Those Ex London E200's are too small and should never have been transferred to Bedford. Given their age they won't have more than 3 years service left with Stagecoach
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on August 09, 2019, 01:27:18 PM
19703 was my bus home on the 9 yesterday as 37061 was on a W7.

This morning 18336 was my 81 into town. 36302 was entrusted to the 0839 2 to Flitwick whilst 11126 was on the 0836 50. 18419 and 18424 were on 1's and 18423 on 5's. The 0800 X5 from Cambridge was on the radar today and no surprises it was 19704 with 19705 going the other way on the 0731 MK to Cambridge X5.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on August 15, 2019, 10:17:55 AM
I assume that they have found an answer to the Elites problems. A quick look on Saturday's X5 allocations on Saturday morning showed no E400's out but whether that was fact or some vehicles were not showing on the tracker I wouldn't know. Yesterday I could only find 19890 on the 0726 to Cambridge and this morning no E400's listed on the route just Elite's and Leyland olys 14341 and 14351 which I have not seen for donkeys years. Apparently 14341 is 54308 and 14351 is 54318. I never knew that but do now.

Buses to work yesterday were 19893 on the 9A and 37436 on the 6. Going home was better as I had 18336 on a 6 and 18424 on the 9 and whilst at the bus station 18423 arrived on a 5 and 18419 on a 1. Not often I see our four tridents in service at the same time. 37058 was parked up for its W7 turns. Less route variety this morning on the trident front with three of them on 1's just leaving 18336 on a 9B. This mornings work buses were 19890 on the 0837 9 and 19700 on the 0911 6. A completely different experience when the schools are off having buses on time.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Emms1 on August 15, 2019, 02:41:11 PM
I assume that they have found an answer to the Elites problems. A quick look on Saturday's X5 allocations on Saturday morning showed no E400's out but whether that was fact or some vehicles were not showing on the tracker I wouldn't know. Yesterday I could only find 19890 on the 0726 to Cambridge and this morning no E400's listed on the route just Elite's and Leyland olys 14341 and 14351 which I have not seen for donkeys years. Apparently 14341 is 54308 and 14351 is 54318. I never knew that but do now.

Buses to work yesterday were 19893 on the 9A and 37436 on the 6. Going home was better as I had 18336 on a 6 and 18424 on the 9 and whilst at the bus station 18423 arrived on a 5 and 18419 on a 1. Not often I see our four tridents in service at the same time. 37058 was parked up for its W7 turns. Less route variety this morning on the trident front with three of them on 1's just leaving 18336 on a 9B. This mornings work buses were 19890 on the 0837 9 and 19700 on the 0911 6. A completely different experience when the schools are off having buses on time.
If only there were Olympians working the X5 or indeed any route, I never thought I'd genuinely miss them as much as I do!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on August 16, 2019, 01:20:19 PM
My buses home were 19700 again on the 6 and 18336 on the 1800 9A or was it 9B. I never pay much attention to the suffix. 37063 was out on the W7.

This morning I had 19702 on the 9A and the more usual 27642 on the 6. 39681 did the 0836 50 and apparently 11127 is on the 1236 50. I did witness 19087 on the 0936 50, whilst 18336 was still on the 9A and 18419 and 18424 on 1's. 18423 has vanished again for the system like a problematic child.

Once more the X5 is dominated by Elite's with just 53617 the stray vehicle on the route. How much longer can they keep this up?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on August 19, 2019, 01:45:47 PM
On my way home Friday on 19700 on the 9 we passed 22834 in River St on W7 duties. This morning my 9 into town produced 18423 with 18336 working the other diagram before it got ripped so 19700 could resume its duties on the 9 from Friday. 18419 and 18424 were on 1's, 34830 on a 7 and 36302 on a 73.

Incredibly the X5 was 100% Elites as at 1330 hours today. How are they managing to keep this up? Curious how this reliability has improved since the open day. Did the mayor sprinkle them with magic dust? :P
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on August 19, 2019, 02:40:19 PM
Incredibly the X5 was 100% Elites as at 1330 hours today. How are they managing to keep this up? Curious how this reliability has improved since the open day. Did the mayor sprinkle them with magic dust? :P

Was engineering director, Darren, at the open day by any chance? Any “magic dust“ is more likely to have emanated from that direction.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on August 20, 2019, 05:27:15 PM
Was engineering director, Darren, at the open day by any chance? Any “magic dust“ is more likely to have emanated from that direction.

I wouldn't know about that but today it looks like sawdust has hit the radar causing it to malfunction. There were no vehicles showing at all on routes 9 and 6 this morning which was hardly helpful in working out when I might have a bus to get to work.

The X5 was seriously afflicted as one by one the Elites turned into Leyland olys. 54301 became 14334, 54305 became 14338, 54307 turned into 14340, 54310 took on the mantle of 14343 and 54315 was renumbered 14348. Even 53617 was similarly afflicted when it turned into 14332. I was particularly amused when 14169, 19702 and 54316 all appeared to be on the same service to Cambridge.

It appears now that some normality has resumed as Elites have taken over the X5 again and buses are now on route 6 but there are still a few gliches as 37069 is showing up in the town centre as being on a 5 to New Duston. I can believe W7 but not any other route in Bedford. For the record 37059 was on a W7 when I went home yesterday on 19889 on a 6 and 18423 on the 1745 9.

Anyway despite the lack of gen on the tracker this morning I had 19698 on a 9A and 27643 on a 6 so no great surprise. I did view 18336 on an 81, 18419, 18423, 34831 on 1's and 19087 on the 0936 50. Apparently 39692 was on the following 1036. Incidentally route 9 did have its two buses in the morning, 19891 and 37433, even though they were invisible on the map.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on August 22, 2019, 01:19:24 PM
It pleases me to report that normal service has resumed on the X5 this morning with 19891 on the 0656 to Cambridge, 19704 on the 0800 from Cambridge and 19705 on the 1140 from Cambridge. I was starting to get worried that the Elite's were becoming reliable and might not get replaced.

Oddly when I went home on Tuesday I had 19889 on exactly the same 6 service as Monday for 37433 home on the 9. The guest visitor on the W7 in River St was 22836.

Despite the E400's returning to the X5 my route 9 today still rustled up 19701 and 19890 so I had the latter into town for the usual tripe on the 6 to the office, 27646. As per usual the 0911 was late leaving by 5 minutes despite being in position for the service at 9am. There seems to be an issue in getting the 0911 out on time as if specially to annoy me trying to beat the 0930 work deadline.

Little 36301 was on 5's but then went onto 41's for good behaviour whilst 18424 was wrestled off 1's and took over on 5's from 36301. This left 18419 and 18423 on 1's and 18336 went to Flitwick on a 2. 15405 did the 0836 50 followed by 19083 on the 0936 50 so same old piffle.

I see Bedford is playing host to rail replacement buses to St Neots and Peterborough this weekend owing to LNER closing for business between London and Doncaster. In line with rip off Britain and taking untold liberties with public goodwill, passengers are being asked to fork out £53.50 for a 70 minute bus journey direct to Peterborough from Bedford. What an absolute treat. On top of this outrage they are charging £18.95 to go to St Neots compared to the £11 return on the X5. Whilst I appreciate that the train fare Bedford to Peterborough via Leicester or via London is £53.50, to actually charge that amount for just going direct on a bus and not going via Leicester or London, is scandalous. What do LNER care anyway? Their advice to the public is not to bother travelling this Bank Holiday weekend. Another advert for bringing back BR...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: cesar on August 22, 2019, 09:23:05 PM
It pleases me to report that normal service has resumed on the X5 this morning with 19891 on the 0656 to Cambridge, 19704 on the 0800 from Cambridge and 19705 on the 1140 from Cambridge. I was starting to get worried that the Elite's were becoming reliable and might not get replaced.

Oddly when I went home on Tuesday I had 19889 on exactly the same 6 service as Monday for 37433 home on the 9. The guest visitor on the W7 in River St was 22836.

Despite the E400's returning to the X5 my route 9 today still rustled up 19701 and 19890 so I had the latter into town for the usual tripe on the 6 to the office, 27646. As per usual the 0911 was late leaving by 5 minutes despite being in position for the service at 9am. There seems to be an issue in getting the 0911 out on time as if specially to annoy me trying to beat the 0930 work deadline.

Little 36301 was on 5's but then went onto 41's for good behaviour whilst 18424 was wrestled off 1's and took over on 5's from 36301. This left 18419 and 18423 on 1's and 18336 went to Flitwick on a 2. 15405 did the 0836 50 followed by 19083 on the 0936 50 so same old piffle.

I see Bedford is playing host to rail replacement buses to St Neots and Peterborough this weekend owing to LNER closing for business between London and Doncaster. In line with rip off Britain and taking untold liberties with public goodwill, passengers are being asked to fork out £53.50 for a 70 minute bus journey direct to Peterborough from Bedford. What an absolute treat. On top of this outrage they are charging £18.95 to go to St Neots compared to the £11 return on the X5. Whilst I appreciate that the train fare Bedford to Peterborough via Leicester or via London is £53.50, to actually charge that amount for just going direct on a bus and not going via Leicester or London, is scandalous. What do LNER care anyway? Their advice to the public is not to bother travelling this Bank Holiday weekend. Another advert for bringing back BR...

But LNER is pretty much....er.....BR. Government run trains on government owned track 😃😃
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on August 22, 2019, 11:02:11 PM
But LNER is pretty much....er.....BR. Government run trains on government owned track 😃😃

Excellent point! Shows that it’s less of a case of the operator being wrong, more that of the system. Tighter contractual terms. Closer monitoring.

And the same for bus operators? (You’d know, eh?)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: linkyyork on August 23, 2019, 12:35:17 AM
But LNER is pretty much....er.....BR. Government run trains on government owned track 😃😃

Just to get things correct - on the days that no trains run between Kings Cross and Peterborough - services  start at Peterborough and run via Spalding  and Lincoln to Doncaster and then on to original destinations and of course vice versa
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: ChilternRover on August 23, 2019, 10:06:25 AM
And of course it is due to Network Rail projects leaving LNER and its passengers with no choice. I bet they would be only too happy to be running a normal service!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on August 23, 2019, 12:51:46 PM
I am a little surprised that subsequent comments only relate to the status of the rail company as if the fare was justifiable. Perhaps I move in the wrong circles. Whatever the status of LNER, the old BR would not charge £53.50 for a 70 minute bus journey and this is not a reasonable charge. Whilst I can understand that this sum of money is charged if you go via Leicester or London for the time taken (over 2 hours) and mileage involved, surely on a direct bus service taking 70 minutes it is not worthy of the same fare? The irony is that if you are travelling from London to Peterborough via Bedford using the bus it costs £37.40. If a train company is not permitted to amend its fares when it can't provide a train service then the public are being ripped off in my view.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on August 23, 2019, 01:00:50 PM
After causing a diversion of the subject at hand of this thread time to get back on track.

On my way home on 19701 on the 9 yesterday 34831 was noted on 1's and 28622 was on the W7. This morning 19702 was my bus into town on the 9 whilst 19701 was still on the 9. A bus I haven't seen in a while, 34428, was on the 51, 15403 did the 0836 50, 15402 the 0936 50, 18423 the 0900 81, 18424 arrived on a 5 and then did the 0915 73. 18336 and 18419 were on 1's and 19893 produced on the 0800 X5 from Cambridge. As usual the 0911 6 with 27523 departed four minutes late for no apparent reason.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on August 24, 2019, 12:31:56 PM
I had 18419 into town on a 9 noting 18423 on a 1 to view the froth on the St Neots and Peterborough rail replacements for an hour that were too chingy for me to do. A couple of Go Ahead double decks E400 E74 and an evil PVL were on St Neots. Plenty of coaches from the likes of Redfern Travel, Barton Coaches, Hamilton, Country Lion, Atkinson, Lawman and Chiltern Travel.

Whilst I was viewing the station spectacle I missed winner 11128 on the 0936 50. Incidentally dud 11134 was showing for the 1136 50 as I headed off to Hitchin on  the 1000 9A. So far Hitchin to Peterborough, Potters Bar, Letchworth and Luton Airport Parkway rail replacements have stirred no interest in me. Arriva single deck plastic on Letchworth to Luton circuit and Metroline, Lucketts, Hamilton, BM Coaches, Fowlers, Landmark, Richard Taylor Travel, Barton and Britannia so far on Potters Bar / Peterborough.

Looks like I will be heading home this afternoon on 18336 which should be the 1409 9A if no oly produces which seems inevitable.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on September 03, 2019, 01:13:57 PM
There appeared to be 100% availability of Elite's last Friday so I wasn't too optimistic about getting an E400 to Cambridge on Saturday but 19891 duly obliged on the 0756 X5 so I could get across to Norwich for the snouts. Recently scored 39688 did the 0610 50 and 11126 was on the 0836 50.

Back at work today so 19701 took me into town on the 9 and I see nothing has changed with the 0911 6 as we were 5 late leaving on 37434 brought about by changing driver, adjusting the seat, fine tuning the ticket machine and chatting to the departing driver. 18336 and 18424 were on 9A's, 18419 on 5's and 18423 on 1's. Gold visitor 11127 passed me on the inbound working for the 0936 50 and apparently 19698 was in Cambridge leaving with the 0910 X5. The 99 had 27644 to prevent it annoying me on the 6 albeit it has just arrived back in Bedford. 27523 is off the 6 where it has been turning up as my chariot for work like a recurring nightmare so a bit of respite :o. Oddly 10871 and 10875 are also showing up on route 6 allocations. I knew I should not have taken that Amoxicillin earlier... :o
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on September 05, 2019, 02:07:50 PM
After having 19701 on the 9 on Tuesday it rolled up again when I left work on a 6 the same day. 37069 was a W7 and 19888 arrived on the 1610 X5 from Cambridge as I went home on 19891 on the 9A.

This morning I had 19703 on the 9 and got to the bus station as 37432 was due out on the 0911 6. So I sauntered off to Greggs and the bank and still made it as it set off at 0917. Never on time leaving. 19704 was on the 0800 X5 from Cambridge, 18423 on a 9A, 18424 on a 1 and 18336 did a 73. A quick check later showed 18336 now on 53's, 18419 on 81's with 53615 and 18108 on an inbound 50. The radar seems to be behaving with no silly numbered buses showing up.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on September 09, 2019, 01:59:17 PM
I went home on the last 1 on Sunday which was 19888 and we departed at the same time as 19889 on the 1610 X5 from Cambridge heading for MK.

This morning 19701 did the 0731 MK to Cambridge X5, followed by 53617 on the 0856 to Cambridge whilst 19889 was still on the X5 performing on the 0800 from Cambridge. 19698 has now joined in with the 1256 to Cambridge. Looks like the Elite's are letting the side down again rather like those 230's on the Bletchley branch.

This morning 34428 arrived on a 73, 18419 did a 9A to Hitchin, 18336 and 18424 were on 1's before the latter has now been slung out on a 9B. 39680 did the 1136 50. My buses today were 19699 on a 9B and 34831 on a 6 whilst 37063 took refuge from the W7 in the bus station.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on September 11, 2019, 01:08:56 PM
Yesterday the X5 dropped 19889 on the 0731 MK to Cambridge for its third day in a row on the route. The 0656 to Cambridge produced 19704 and 19890 later had a spin at lunchtime. 37074 was viewed resting between W7's.

This morning I had a choice of tridents into town so I got on 18419 on an 81 which was in front of 18336 on a 9B. 18424 went the other way on a 9A whilst 18423 continues to hide from public viewing and seems to be the most unreliable of our surviving tridents.

19706 was the choice today for the 0731 MK to Cambridge X5. I did 37433 to work on the 6 after flagging 11127 on the 0836 50 which departed 12 minutes late. Following the gold bus on the route were 15403 on the 0936, 18108 on the 1036, 39684 on the 1136 and 18104 on the 1236.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on September 12, 2019, 01:31:45 PM
27523 was waiting to trap me on my 6 from work as it does every week and to make it an even more miserable experience with the kids back at school, the excessive traffic and road works of Manton Lane trebles the journey time. At least I had 18336 home on the 1800 9A noting 37049 on the W7. The 99 allocations on the radar showed 27646 had been out.

This morning my 9 into town was 34428, first ride on that for a few months, for the usual 27520 on the 6. Also the usual X5 services to drop deckers saw 19888 on the 0800 from Cambridge and 19698 on the 0731 MK to Cambridge. 18336 was on the 0900 81, 18419 did the 0730 9B and 18424 was out on 1's whilst 18423 has now been absent for a week. 37072 was taking a break in the bus station.

Whilst in the office I see 11131 and 11126 did consecutive 50's on the 1136 and 1236 as 18104 heads the other way on the 1250 from Kettering.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on September 12, 2019, 05:13:19 PM
27523 was waiting to trap me on my 6 from work as it does every week and to make it an even more miserable experience with the kids back at school, the excessive traffic and road works of Manton Lane trebles the journey time. At least I had 18336 home on the 1800 9A noting 37049 on the W7. The 99 allocations on the radar showed 27646 had been out.

This morning my 9 into town was 34428, first ride on that for a few months, for the usual 27520 on the 6. Also the usual X5 services to drop deckers saw 19888 on the 0800 from Cambridge and 19698 on the 0731 MK to Cambridge. 18336 was on the 0900 81, 18419 did the 0730 9B and 18424 was out on 1's whilst 18423 has now been absent for a week. 37072 was taking a break in the bus station.

Whilst in the office I see 11131 and 11126 did consecutive 50's on the 1136 and 1236 as 18104 heads the other way on the 1250 from Kettering.


Talking about 18423 has sprung it into action as it is on the 1625 81 from Luton passing 18336 on the 1630 to Luton.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on September 16, 2019, 01:56:41 PM
My vehicles home from work last Thursday produced 18104 on a 50 and 34428 on a 9 with 37072 on a W7.

Todays strange entry in the records is 19702 which is reportedly on the 1245 9 at the same time as it is reported on a 1305 X5 therefore it has split in two or we have two vehicles numbered the same so I guess don't believe all you read on the radar.

What was believable were 18336 on my 9B and 27520 on the 6. I missed the 0911 today thanks to the static traffic in Elstow Road reducing our trident to a crawl as we inched along at half the pace of a snail. I don't know why the traffic was 50 times worse than last week down that road but it doesn't bode well for getting to work on time if it continues. The other tridents out were 18423 and 18424 on 1's and 18419 on a 53. 11127 produced on a 50 whilst 19888 did the 0726 X5 to Cambridge assuming the radar was being truthful.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on September 17, 2019, 12:59:42 PM
My buses home yesterday were 37432 on a 6 and 18336 on a 9A and this morning I had 19704 on the 9B and 27642 on the 6. Only one E400 spotted and that was 19891 on the 0731 X5 MK to Cambridge. I assume 18419 was taken ill yesterday as it was reeled in off the 53 yesterday morning and has not reappeared. 18336 is again on the 9A/B circuit with 18423 and 18424 on 1's.

Consecutive departures on the 50 has produced 39680 on the 1036, 47417 on the 1136 and 18108 on the 1236. One has to feel sorry for the driver inflicted with a three hour round trip on a Solo and I hope they are not traumatised by the experience, not that it is anything new as the last service of the day used to get one. Still it looks like Kettering are desperate today kicking that thing out... :-[
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on September 18, 2019, 06:53:55 PM
I finally saw 34428 (KV53EZE) after its repaint today. It looks far smarter than before. It looked like an embarrassment to Stagecoach before it was that tatty.
Interesting to read on Steven knight's site that Bedford and Peterbrough's Tridents are to be replaced with cascaded Enviro 400's from Cambridge. Peterborough getting their own 19694-97 (AE60JPX/Y/RO/U) back. The possible vehicles for Bedford haven't been confirmed yet
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on September 19, 2019, 01:24:59 PM
Bad news to lose another type of bus for the variety factor but I suppose Kettering will still send their tridents on the 50 unless their three go too. Yesterday 18101 did the 1236 50 and my bus home was 18336 on a 9B. 18419 did the 1115 73 with the other two both on 1's. 34428 was also out on a 73. It was rather surprising to learn I missed out on 35226 on the 1036 50 and 35225 on the 1136 50, the latter a winner, thanks to being stuck at work. The X5 still produces with consecutive numbered 19698 (0731 MK to Cambridge), 19699 (0656 to Cambridge) and 19700 (arriving from Cambridge) all performing.

This morning the radar malfunctioned with every single service allocated on the X5 being a Leyland Olympian. I had 27520 on a 9 into town but there was no gen on the route 6 vehicles but 18423 producing on the 0911 was acceptable. 18336 was on 1's and 18419 on 53's and 37061 arrived on a W7. Now it is lunchtime and the vehicle allocations seem to be coming through although 143xx numbers still dominate the X5 allocations. 27643 is on a 99, 19888 is on the 1226 X5 to Cambridge and 19889 will appear on the 1310 from Cambridge. On the 50's 39681 did the 1136 and gold duo 11126 and 11127 are on the 1336 and 1436 departures. The latter is visiting so often now they might as well allocate it to Bedford.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on September 20, 2019, 02:17:07 PM
By the time I headed off home 19888 had been taken off the X5's as it was my 9 from town. 37063 and 37071 were on W7's. This morning 19892 was my 9A into town which arrived in time to witness 11127 pulling in for the 0936 50. It just can't keep away from Bedford. 11126 had done the 0836 earlier. 19704 arrived on the 0800 X5 from Cambridge and 37074 deposited its load on the W7. I had been under the impression the passengers were meant to be taken to the railway station but what do I know?

Route 1 had 18423 and 34428 on it whilst 18336 was on a 9A and 18419 on the 0845 73.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on September 23, 2019, 11:46:24 AM
Repaints of the ex Kings Lynn Enviro 200 MMC's have started again. 37439 (SN16ORJ) is the latest to be painted in to corporate livery.
My thanks to a Stagecoach employee for the info that Enviro 400's 10052-55 (SN12EHM/O/SN13EEA/B) will be moving to Bedford to replace the remaining Tridents
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Julia_Hayward on September 23, 2019, 01:12:46 PM
Will be interesting to see if 10052-5 get to appear on the X5 - aren't they fitted with better seating than the normal E400s?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on September 23, 2019, 01:37:20 PM
Will be interesting to see if 10052-5 get to appear on the X5 - aren't they fitted with better seating than the normal E400s?

They have similar high back seats to the 10 plate E300's at Bedford but not in Stagecoach moquette
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on September 23, 2019, 01:55:19 PM
Sad about the tridents so I had better get them while I can. 18423 was my 6 from work on Friday before doing 37431 home on the 9 as 37043 was on a W7. On Saturday morning 18336 did the first 9A of the day to Hitchin and three hours of viewing produced zero E400's on the X5. It was necessary to view as the tracker had collapsed again, like it did Friday, with all services on the X5 showing as whlte Olympians instead of blue Elites. 18424 did the first 5 of the day and 18419 and 18423 were on 1's. Not only is 11127 a regular on the 50 but so too is 11126 which made another guest appearance on the 0836 Saturday.

Today I had 19704 on the 9B as the traffic was snailing along in a repeat of last Monday's go slow. This proved costly as I missed both 34428 and 18419 on 6's so had to suffer 27523 to get to work. Where does all this extra traffic come from on Monday morning? To annoy me further the tracker was fine today when I was heading for work when I needed it at the weekend to function. 19888 did the 0656 to Cambridge and 19892 worked in from MK but was ripped and plonked onto the 0845 9. 18423 did the 0830 9B and 18336 and 18424 were on 1's.

Naturally 11126 has come to Bedford again today on the 1336 50 but no sign yet of it's mate 11127. Single decks now seem to be on the increase on the 50 with consecutive departures producing 39687 (1036), 39685 (1136) and 39682 (1236), the latter apparently running 27 minutes late.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on September 26, 2019, 02:06:39 PM
Back to work today and once again the traffic was snarled up down Elstow Road so 19892 on the 9B into town was being overtaken by various insects. Is it going to be like this for the foreseeable future where it is quicker to walk? I missed 34428 to work on the 6 again, just like I did on Monday, but in a strange way this worked in my favour as alternative Dart 35180 produced on the 0936 50 and was a winner. Tragically I also required 35176 on the 1036 50 but by then I was stuck in work with no escape. For good measure 39692 did the 1136 50 and 39682 should be on the 1436 50 as Kettering continue to mislay their double decks.

Meanwhile on the trident front, 18419 did the 0805 41 to Northampton and the other three were out on 1's.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on September 27, 2019, 04:21:47 PM
I finally managed to get 34428 home yesterday on the 1815 9 so at some point it had swapped off the 6 in the day. 37074 was at the bus station off the W7 and 36045 and 37437 were both on 1's whilst 36301 was on a 10 and 36302 on a 4.

35180 returned to Bedford today on the 0936 50 again followed by 39687 (1036), 39680 (1136) and 39682 (1236). 18336 did an early return run to Hitchin before being stood down, 18419 and 18424 were out on 1's and 18423 on 53's. 34428 found itself on 2's whilst 27644 escaped to MK on a 99.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on September 30, 2019, 06:16:17 PM
Enviro 400 10053 (SN12EHO) has arrived at Bedford after being transferred from Cambridge
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on October 04, 2019, 11:46:44 AM
18336 has returned to service today freshly painted which I don't understand if it is about to be caped unless it will see service in another part of the Stagecoach empire. Currently on 54303 on the X5 and we passed 18408 at MK on a Brackley X91.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Coast_Hopper on October 05, 2019, 07:56:12 PM
Enviro 400 10053 (SN12EHO) has arrived at Bedford after being transferred from Cambridge

Is that the former Norfolk Green enviro 400 with the blacked out windows
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: AE51VFX (Jonny) on October 07, 2019, 08:17:45 AM
Is that the former Norfolk Green enviro 400 with the blacked out windows

Yes they are tinted windows not blacked out.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on October 07, 2019, 01:28:16 PM
My bus into town on the 9B this morning was 18336 with plenty of trident activity around the place. 18419 was on a 1, 18423 on a 5 and 18424 on a 9A. The 0836 50 was 18108 and 18104 is heading to Bedford to form the 1336 50 as I type this.

19698 is out on the X5's having started on the 0726 to Cambridge whilst 19701 was on a short working. 35177 did the 1136 and 39680 the 1236 50's. My 6 to work was 34830 on the usually late 0911 so no change in my absence by the looks of it. Last week I got on 27523 to the office with two bags and got off with one bag so the other bag had a trip to Brickhill and back without me. I must be going senile so I had to reclaim it from the lost property office the next morning. At least this allowed me access into where the drivers gather and to observe the vehicle workings on the display screen whilst waiting to be processed.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on October 08, 2019, 12:37:00 PM
My buses home yesterday were 18104 on the 50 which made 18336 on the 1800 9A on a plus two so very well timed. Might as well make the most of the tridents whilst they are still here. Not so good this morning having 19893 on the 9B and 27522 on the 6 which could have been better with 19705 and 19892 on 6's too.

In other news 19889 is out on the X5 and 27646 on 99's. 18336 was on 1's but changed to a 9A, 18419 was on 73's but swapped to 1's with 18423 and 18424 doing the 9A/B circuit so Hitchin is the route to rake in those tridents. Once again 39680 fled Kettering to appear in Bedford on the 1136 50 so a second appearance in two days.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on October 10, 2019, 01:10:49 PM
My buses home on Tuesday were 18108 on a 30 late 50 and 34833 on a 9. I missed the 1730 81 with 34428, no surprise, I always seem to miss that vehicle and 37047 was on the W7.

Yesterday the Elites appeared to be playing up as 19700 departed for Cambridge on an X5 whilst 19890 arrived on the 1210 and 19893 on the 1310 from Cambridge. I was bemused to find out I missed winner 39686 on the 1236 50 whilst 39685, 18104 and 18108 also appeared on the route. 34428 was on 53's of no particular use to me and tridents 18419 was on 81's and 18336 and 18424 on 9A/B's.

Naturally that feeling of deja vouz returned this morning as 18419 was on the 81 and 18336 and 18424 on 9A/B's so same as yesterday. Indeed, 18419 was my bus into town before it worked the 0900 81 back to Luton at the same time as 18423 departed for Hitchin on the 0900 9A. Once again I managed to miss 34428 on a 51 to get to work so I had to make do with 34825 on a 6. 37072 was squatting in the bus station off a W7. Today's single deck offering on the 50 is 39688 on the 1037. No issues with the Elites as out solid but supplemented by 53618 on one diagram so no deckers yet today.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: TCD813 on October 10, 2019, 04:27:40 PM
My buses home on Tuesday were 18108 on a 30 late 50 and 34833 on a 9. I missed the 1730 81 with 34428, no surprise, I always seem to miss that vehicle and 37047 was on the W7.

Yesterday the Elites appeared to be playing up as 19700 departed for Cambridge on an X5 whilst 19890 arrived on the 1210 and 19893 on the 1310 from Cambridge. I was bemused to find out I missed winner 39686 on the 1236 50 whilst 39685, 18104 and 18108 also appeared on the route. 34428 was on 53's of no particular use to me and tridents 18419 was on 81's and 18336 and 18424 on 9A/B's.

Naturally that feeling of deja vouz returned this morning as 18419 was on the 81 and 18336 and 18424 on 9A/B's so same as yesterday. Indeed, 18419 was my bus into town before it worked the 0900 81 back to Luton at the same time as 18423 departed for Hitchin on the 0900 9A. Once again I managed to miss 34428 on a 51 to get to work so I had to make do with 34825 on a 6. 37072 was squatting in the bus station off a W7. Today's single deck offering on the 50 is 39688 on the 1037. No issues with the Elites as out solid but supplemented by 53618 on one diagram so no deckers yet today.

I think you meant "déjà vu", if I may.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: SteveHFC on October 12, 2019, 06:37:30 PM
I don't have any details of the vehicle involved unfortunately, but a work colleague reported that an X5 branded coach actually did a run on the 99 this week.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on October 13, 2019, 12:14:44 AM
I don't have any details of the vehicle involved unfortunately, but a work colleague reported that an X5 branded coach actually did a run on the 99 this week.

I have only known this to happen once before back in April 2017 when 54306 (YX64WCK) worked the 99
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on October 15, 2019, 03:15:11 PM
My bus home last Thursday was 18423 on the 1800 9A and I see it has no allocations today but it was on public display this morning parked in the bus station.

Today my chariot on the 81 to town was 18419 which took a staggering 20 minutes to get from Elstow Road to the bus station. This daily ritual of snailing through traffic is extremely tiresome that I wish I could work from home every day but I'm not the boss so I can't. By the time 27643 got me to the office on the 6 it had taken 45 minutes to complete 3 miles.

It looks like Kettering have run out of single decks as normality resumed today with all 50's being double deck including 11127 on the 0936 and 11134 on the 1037. 37050 represented Northampton on the W7. 18336 and 18424 were out on the 9A/B circuit again but 18419 swapped from the 81 to 1's later.

The Elites were not living up to their title as 19698 was on the 0800 X5 from Cambridge, 19888 did the 0656 to Cambridge followed by 19892 on the 0726 to Cambridge.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on October 15, 2019, 05:11:51 PM
In all the years I have lived in Bedford I have never seen a trident on the X5 so unless my eyes are deceiving me, the radar is showing 18423 in Cambridge after working the 1541 from Bedford so it should return 1725. Is this a last hurrah before the axe falls?
 :o
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on October 16, 2019, 01:50:29 PM
I tried my luck on the 73 this morning with 18424 but it still took 15 minutes to crawl into town along London Road. The 0911 6 kept up its daily lateness with 27521 departing 9 minutes late. Still it could have been worse as 19891 on the 9A was running a ridiculous 46 minutes late from Hitchin which forced me to cover the 73 route. Retirement can't come soon enough as every year gets worse trying to get to and from work. It was the decision to move the office out of town so I have to suffer two buses to get to work that started the downward spiral. It might be easier for road rats to get to the office but not for those who use two buses and get bogged down on two routes.

The other tridents had 18336 on 1's and 18419 and 18423 on 9B's. No improvement on the Elites in service with 19889, 19890 and 19704 all performing on the X5. Today a single decker reappeared on the 1136 50 in the form of 39686.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on October 17, 2019, 12:54:46 PM
My bus from work yesterday on the 6 was 18336 which does not appear to be out today. Both 37048 and 37050 were cheekily parked in the bus station on their W7 duties. It's a shame Bedford can't nick one to use in service as the 9 route was still a mess like it had been in the morning. Although the Shortstown 9 only requires two buses this proved beyond managing last night as I discovered the 1745 was fresh air as too had been the 1545 and 1645 departures according to the route allocations. The screen declared that the next 9A was 38 minutes away and a check of the radar showed this to be fairly accurate as the inbound services were still out in the wilds. I was not prepared to wait half an hour for the 1815 9 so for the second time in the day I found myself on the 73 with 34428 on the 1750 which I didn't miss for a change.

This morning I was back on my normal route with 19888 on a 9B for 27642 on the 0911 6 which surprised me in that it was only 2 minutes late even after the protracted driver swap. However, if I thought the Hitchin route was fairing better this morning than that was rectified by the radar claiming 18423 was running 63 minutes late on the 0800 but one wonders if it turned short of its destination as it arrived back in Bedford on time to form the 1100 or maybe the 63 late quote was fake news. Presumably if it really was an hour late then the one behind would have caught it up so a passenger swap could ensue but I had stopped looking by then. I did notice 35226 on the 0950 50 from Kettering before switching off.

18419 and 18424 were out on 1's and 34428 on 53's and 53618 was seen departing on the 0856 X5 to Cambridge. 19700 was coming the other way on the 0800 from Cambridge.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on October 17, 2019, 06:20:59 PM
My bus from work yesterday on the 6 was 18336 which does not appear to be out today. Both 37048 and 37050 were cheekily parked in the bus station on their W7 duties. It's a shame Bedford can't nick one to use in service as the 9 route was still a mess like it had been in the morning. Although the Shortstown 9 only requires two buses this proved beyond managing last night as I discovered the 1745 was fresh air as too had been the 1545 and 1645 departures according to the route allocations. The screen declared that the next 9A was 38 minutes away and a check of the radar showed this to be fairly accurate as the inbound services were still out in the wilds. I was not prepared to wait half an hour for the 1815 9 so for the second time in the day I found myself on the 73 with 34428 on the 1750 which I didn't miss for a change.

This morning I was back on my normal route with 19888 on a 9B for 27642 on the 0911 6 which surprised me in that it was only 2 minutes late even after the protracted driver swap. However, if I thought the Hitchin route was fairing better this morning than that was rectified by the radar claiming 18423 was running 63 minutes late on the 0800 but one wonders if it turned short of its destination as it arrived back in Bedford on time to form the 1100 or maybe the 63 late quote was fake news. Presumably if it really was an hour late then the one behind would have caught it up so a passenger swap could ensue but I had stopped looking by then. I did notice 35226 on the 0950 50 from Kettering before switching off.

18419 and 18424 were out on 1's and 34428 on 53's and 53618 was seen departing on the 0856 X5 to Cambridge. 19700 was coming the other way on the 0800 from Cambridge.

Trident 18336 (AE55DJV) was out today on the 5.

The recently transferred Enviro 400's 10052-55 (SN12EHM/O/SN13EEA/B) are all being repainted and will be entering service shortly
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on October 18, 2019, 02:07:51 PM
It looks like 18424 collapsed on the 1300 1 yesterday and went back to the depot replaced by 36937 and it has not been out this morning. My buses home were 19706 on the 6 and 19888 on the 9A whilst 19698 rolled in on an X5 from Cambridge. This morning I had 18423 on an 81 and 27521 on the 0859 6. 53615 and 10054 were on public display in the bus station and the radar was generating more fake news by suggesting the latter was on a 1 to Fulbourn.

18423 went back to Luton on the 0900 81 and 18419 did the 0915 73 with 18336 still stuck to the 5's after it came off the depot to form the 1210 5 yesterday. 19893 arrived on the 0800 X5 from Cambridge, a regular occurrence. The radar showed 27646 on 99's and 39684 on the 0950 50 from Kettering

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on October 18, 2019, 04:58:39 PM
It appears 10054 has been despatched on the 1625 73 so it's entry into service might be seen as the end of 18424 as a straight swap. There seems little reason to fix the trident now... :-\
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on October 18, 2019, 06:03:05 PM
Whilst on crush loaded Dart 34831 (KX06JYO) on the 53 this evening I saw that a start has finally been made on repainting the ex Peterborough Enviro 400's. 19706 passed by on the 9B sporting a fresh coat of paint. It carries Stagecoach fleet names with no local identifier. Have Stagecoach now stopped branding their vehicles according to the towns and cities they serve?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on October 21, 2019, 08:46:03 AM
It hasn't taken long for one the new arrivals to be used on the X5. 10054 (SN13EEA) is on the service this morning
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: Julia_Hayward on October 21, 2019, 11:18:51 AM
Indeed, saw it heading west out of Cambridge around 8am while I was on 19706 (which feels really jaded internally!). Do that batch have wi-fi? It's very frustrating that the 19xxx don't as that's one of the selling points of the X5!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on October 21, 2019, 01:27:55 PM
It hasn't taken long for one the new arrivals to be used on the X5. 10054 (SN13EEA) is on the service this morning

Probably wants to go home and doesn't want to be in Bedford...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on October 21, 2019, 01:43:31 PM
I see 11127 departed 38 minutes late on the 1716 50 last Friday but 18423 did leave on time with the 1739 2 to Flitwick.  I had to make do with 19704 on the 6 and 19888 on the 1800 9A for the second day running.

This morning I forgot that the kids were off and sauntered out late expecting the 81 and 19705 on the 9B to be late. They were not and I missed both which forced me to cover the 0735 73 from Biggleswade instead to intercept 19699. 34830 took me to work on the 0859 6. 18424 is still out of it but 18336 did do the 0845 73 and 18419 and 18423 are both on the 9A/B circuit. The 1136 50 has dropped 39688 which seems to be a fairly solid single deck turn these days. 10054 is still going strong on the 1251 X5 one of these rare occasions when I can actually say I have a winner on that route.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on October 22, 2019, 12:40:23 PM
I went home yesterday on 18336 on the 6 and 37436 on the 9. 19889 appeared to be on the 1726 X5 to Cambridge and 34833 arrived on a 7.

This morning I was treated to 18336 on a 9B and 27521 on the 0859 6 which left 4 minutes late. Also on the Hitchin circuit was 18419 whilst 18423 was on 1's. 36045 was out on 3's and 37050 made itself comfortable in the bus station off a W7. 18336 was then turfed out on 1's so it didn't last long on the 9A/B.

10054 continues to find service on the X5 being assigned to the 0656 desperate to escape Bedford but no joy for it as last reported on the 1210 from Cambridge. 19891 did the 0726 to Cambridge and the trusted 0800 from Cambridge for a decker had 19701 on it.

The usual single decker on the 1136 50 is 39689 today but the 1236 has also 39682 performing.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: al_557 on October 22, 2019, 10:51:52 PM
18424 (AE06GZW) has become the first of the remaining Tridents to be stood down. Dart 34829 (KX06 JYL) is off the road with an engine problem and apparently is awaiting a decision on whether it's worth repairing it or not. Maybe another Dart will come to replace it from Peterborough when ex Bedford Enviro 200 36934 (SN63KFO) enters service there after its 2 years off the road impounded by the police at Buckdale
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
Post by: MIB on October 23, 2019, 01:16:37 PM
Getting home from work yesterday utilised 18419 on a 51 and 34825 on a 9. 18101 was on the 1625 50 from Kettering to partially make up for the loss of 18424. 10054 was reeled in from the X5 and chucked out on the 1740 6 so had I left the office half an hour later I could have scratched it in. River Street was home to 28632 and 37111 waiting their next W7 trips.

The 0800 X5 from Cambridge dropped again this morning with 19890 but 10054 was booted out on the 0630 9A to Hitchin and was making its way back whilst I was on 19891 on a 9B into town. 37436 was my 0859 6 and its chum 37439 was viewed which is the first time I have seen it not in grasshopper livery and looking as bland as the rest of Bedford's allocation. 34428 was on 41's and the doomed trio of tridents had 18419 on 5's before doing the 1245 81 and 18336 and 18423 on 1's.

It looks like one trident is soon for the chop as 10055 has sneaked out on the 1000 81 this morning but the radar is starting to have a meltdown as it is listed as doing the 1300 99 according to the allocations but no sign of it on the map. 19699 has been split in two as the radar records it on the 1151 X5 towards St Neots and also doing the 1245 51. A collapse in the system must be imminent...

Meanwhile Kettering have sent us more single decks on the 50 with 39681 on the 1136 and 39685 on the 1236.