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Title: Eastern Counties SVF895G at Hunstanton
Post by: John Wakefield on July 03, 2019, 07:26:04 PM
Former Eastern Counties Bristol RELH ECW C47F RE896 (SVF896G) seen at Hunstanton on Monday 1st July
(https://i66.servimg.com/u/f66/17/77/69/16/dsc07423.jpg)
Title: Re: Eastern Counties SVF895G at Hunstanton
Post by: Steves on July 03, 2019, 11:39:54 PM
According to Rob Sly, this was the vehicle (SVF896G) which was used by Pullman in service.

I travelled on this coach once in Pullman service from Ely to Cambridge with my son and still have the (rather faded) tickets to prove it.
Title: Re: Eastern Counties SVF895G at Hunstanton
Post by: John Wakefield on July 04, 2019, 09:09:48 AM
Yes Cambridge Team Pullman was owned by John Swallow & Norman Dawes who also ran a local service (the 120 I think) between Cambridge and Kingston via the Eversdens & Barton. They also had another EC RE SAH851M (now derelict in Somerset) They sold 895 to Tony Gallagher of Cambridge and it stood in Youngs yard at Haddenham for some time  until sold to current owner Charles White for preservation. Charles initially had it restored at Bus Works, and more recently it had a repaint at Marden Commercials, Benfleet. A very nice coach and one that gets well used , It has recently been on a 500 mile trip to Morcambe and back. It will be back in Norfolk this coming Saturday at the NNR Rally at Holt & on Sunday in Suffolk at Carlton Colville for the Eastern Transport Collection 50th Anniversary Event

Pic (by David Beardmore) shows 896 needing some TLC  in Youngs Yard March 2008
(https://i66.servimg.com/u/f66/17/77/69/16/12455610.jpg)
Title: Re: Eastern Counties SVF895G at Hunstanton
Post by: busman on July 04, 2019, 09:33:16 AM
Coach Team Pullman's timetable
Title: Re: Eastern Counties SVF895G at Hunstanton
Post by: busman on July 04, 2019, 09:35:45 AM
The RE taking on fuel in Barton when in service.
Broom handle job!
Title: Re: Eastern Counties SVF895G at Hunstanton
Post by: XF74 on July 14, 2019, 11:03:38 PM
According to Rob Sly, this was the vehicle (SVF896G) which was used by Pullman in service.

I travelled on this coach once in Pullman service from Ely to Cambridge with my son and still have the (rather faded) tickets to prove it.

It's possible that I might have driven you that day as I was with Pullman for their first couple of months of operation. Driving this, SAH 851M and former East Kent Reliance LAH 878A (does anybody have a previous ID for this? Early 70s Plaxton rebody) on service was certainly a pleasure and a privilege.
Title: Re: Eastern Counties SVF895G at Hunstanton
Post by: John Wakefield on July 15, 2019, 08:37:08 AM
I dont recall Pullman having a Reliance LAH878A but they did have another ex Eastern Counties RE SAH851M. What is your name XF74?
(https://i66.servimg.com/u/f66/17/77/69/16/sah_8510.jpg) (pic JW)

SAH851M was last known derelict in a yard near Westbury (pic John Hembry)
(https://i66.servimg.com/u/f66/17/77/69/16/re851_10.jpg)
Title: Re: Eastern Counties SVF895G at Hunstanton
Post by: busman on July 15, 2019, 09:26:40 AM
I don't remember a Reliance, but they did have an old Plaxton bodied Bedford YRT new to barton
Title: Re: Eastern Counties SVF895G at Hunstanton
Post by: busman on July 15, 2019, 12:41:46 PM
I don't remember a Reliance, but they did have an old Plaxton bodied Bedford YRT new to barton
New as XRR 605M but reregistered to JIW 3890 before arriving at Pullmans
Title: Cambridge Team Pullman coaches
Post by: John Wakefield on July 15, 2019, 02:16:46 PM
Here is JIW3890 seen at Gt Shelford in 1995 in between schools, it was on hire that day to Andrews Coaches.
(https://i66.servimg.com/u/f66/17/77/69/16/dsc07517.jpg)
Pic JW
Title: Re: Eastern Counties SVF895G at Hunstanton
Post by: busman on July 15, 2019, 09:04:44 PM
The company had quite a few coaches over the years One such vehicle was this MCW Metroliner B341 LRA which was painted to promote the then new Tesco superstore in Cherry Hinton but photographed during a Premier Foods staff outing to Lego Land in Windsor
Title: Re: Eastern Counties SVF895G at Hunstanton
Post by: busman on July 15, 2019, 09:12:40 PM
MAB 250X Coach Team Pullman
The pink Panther seen at the Great Eversden bus stop
Title: Re: Eastern Counties SVF895G at Hunstanton
Post by: John Wakefield on July 16, 2019, 02:06:40 PM
The company had quite a few coaches over the years One such vehicle was this MCW Metroliner B341 LRA which was painted to promote the then new Tesco superstore in Cherry Hinton but photographed during a Premier Foods staff outing to Lego Land in Windsor

Pullman also had Scania NIL 5673 https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr-bg/5251230906/in/photolist-6XVDsi-rkX97D-W5Y9Dw-912VZU-297MB4p-2dcqv5o-23pwfbk-2b6wJ9A-ZZev1T-23w7BzD-sNRbNT
Title: Re: Eastern Counties SVF895G at Hunstanton
Post by: XF74 on August 15, 2019, 10:14:05 AM
It's taken me far longer than expected to get to the bottom of it but I finally have some info for the AEC Reliance which was briefly operated. I'm just glad it wasn't a figment of my imagination as I'd turned over all manner of paperwork in my collection, but a friend with access to Busview came to my aid.
LAH 878A was new to East Kent in 1963 as 6545 FN with Park Royal C49F and was one of thirty Reliances rebodied to Plaxton Panorama Elite III C49F in the early 1970s. It gained fleet number 8545 when East Kent were dragged kicking and screaming into the computer age during the mid 1970s and was one of sixteen such rebodies sold on to Cobholm Hire Services (Caroline-Seagull) of Great Yarmouth in 1981. Caroline then sold it to Waveney, Ellingham by 8/94 and Pullman acquired it around November/December the same year where it was given fleet number RS878. By May 1995 it had been sold on to Wigley's breakers at Carlton and was scrapped.

Nigel U

6545 FN with Park Royal body:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/134227013@N08/20321255051 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/134227013@N08/20321255051)

and with Plaxton:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/richardstubbings/19384042182 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/richardstubbings/19384042182)

To avoid any confusion, 6545 FN was transferred to FEX 818T (formerly DJG 631C) which Caroline rebodied as a Supreme. This seems to have bitten the dust in December 2001 per DVLA:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/53055234@N08/45389513064 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/53055234@N08/45389513064)
Title: Re: Eastern Counties SVF895G at Hunstanton
Post by: John Wakefield on August 16, 2019, 12:30:28 PM
Thanks for that info Nigel, as a matter of interest here is the Pullman Fleet list from the Anglia Bus Handbook May 1998
SVF896G Bristol RELH6G ECW C47F 1969 ex preservation 1994
EGX982 MCW Metroliner SR130/6 MCW CH55/19CT 1985 Ex Wordsworth, Ely (was exported in May 1998)
NIL5673 Scania K112CRB Plaxton Paramount 3500 lll C49F 1989 Ex Martindales, Ferry Hill 1998
G954KJX DAF SB2305DHTD585 Plaxton Paramount 3200 lll C53F 1990 Ex JBS, Bedford 1996
J213XKY Scania K113CRB Plaxton Paramount 3500 lll S51FT 1991 Ex Q Drive (Limebourne) Battersea 1997
K344BOK Renault Trafic T1100D Holdsworth M8 1992 (previous operator not stated)
K750UJO Dennis Javelin 12SDA1907 Plaxton Premier 320 C53F 1992 Ex Oxfird CityLink 1998
K752UJO Dennis Javelin 12SDA1907 Plaxton Premier 320 C53F 1992 Ex Oxfird CityLink 1998

EGX982 originally B233XEU
NIL5673 originally F173DET

By this time Pullman t/a Coach Team Pullman Ltd were trading from The Garage, 26 Scotland Road, Chippenham, Cambs which at the time was the home of one of the directors John Swallow, the 'garage' was his car garage attached to his house! The depot was at Isleham
Pullman previously traded as Wordsworth from Haddenham Ely Cambs.
Title: Re: Eastern Counties SVF895G at Hunstanton
Post by: John Wakefield on August 16, 2019, 12:33:11 PM
The company had quite a few coaches over the years One such vehicle was this MCW Metroliner B341 LRA which was painted to promote the then new Tesco superstore in Cherry Hinton but photographed during a Premier Foods staff outing to Lego Land in Windsor
Was also registered EGX982, new as B233XEU to Wessex National
Title: Re: Eastern Counties SVF895G at Hunstanton
Post by: TCD813 on August 16, 2019, 12:44:23 PM
Was also registered EGX982, new as B233XEU to Wessex National

Wessex National? Is that a typo for Western National?
Title: Re: Eastern Counties SVF895G at Hunstanton
Post by: John Wakefield on August 16, 2019, 03:39:41 PM
No its Wessex according to BLotW
B233XEU    MCW DR130/6 MB8062    MCW     CH55/17Dt    3/1985    Wessex National    233    
Title: Re: Eastern Counties SVF895G at Hunstanton
Post by: XF74 on August 16, 2019, 11:37:08 PM
Wessex National Ltd was formed on 20th May 1984 when the Bristol activities of National Travel (West) were hived off in the run up to privatisation.
Title: Re: Eastern Counties SVF895G at Hunstanton
Post by: Spoddendale on August 17, 2019, 07:48:32 AM
Wessex had quite a presence in East Anglia for a number of years as a regular operator on National Express services primarily the 747 service from Bristol to Cambridge/Norwich onward to either Cromer or Great Yarmouth/Lowestoft. (I have photos taken between 1987 to the mid 1990s).
In 1991 my very first ride on a Plaxton Expressliner 1 was from Mildenhall to Cambridge on a coach operated by Wessex.
 
In January 1994 my first sighting of an Expressliner 2 was a Wessex vehicle in Newmarket operating their regular working on the 1030 London-Lowestoft service 597 that returned as the 1615 Lowestoft-London (arriving 2020). Ambassador did all the other 597 workings at the time. (Wessex had replaced Scottish based Express Travel Services that did the London-Lowestoft-London run during the day using Caledonian Express liveried coaches between the overnight Scotland-London and London-Scotland runs).
 
Another unusual working by Wessex (1989 at least) was a two day duty which ran Bristol-Cambridge (service 747) then Cambridge to Sheffield (service 351) on the first day. The next day it did the return (0825 service 351 from Sheffield to Cambridge (arrival 1240) then 1440 service 747 from Cambridge to Bristol (due 2050).

Wessex also worked the Clacton-on-Sea to Liverpool service 350 in the mid-1990s.

If of interest, to view photographs of the above follow this link: http://www.ipernity.com/home/davidslater-spoddendale and search ‘Wessex of Bristol’.

David