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Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« on: October 15, 2008, 01:51:13 PM »

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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2008, 02:50:59 AM »
How... ehm... pathetic.  If they wanted to say things against the busway then there's far better they could have come up with than that.

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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2008, 10:11:00 PM »
Aaaaagh! Cambridge City politics.

Just don't get me started, grrrrrrrr!

You know what we all think of bankers right now? Well, this lot, running Cambridge City Council are an even bigger 'wunch'.
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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2008, 10:19:23 PM »
How... ehm... pathetic.  If they wanted to say things against the busway then there's far better they could have come up with than that.
Like coming up with a better reason why its not a good idea??
How about that it won't take a single HGV off the A14, or really ease congestion, or that its not "silent" like CCC said it would be???
And thats just off the top of my head!!

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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2008, 11:06:14 PM »
How... ehm... pathetic.  If they wanted to say things against the busway then there's far better they could have come up with than that.
Like coming up with a better reason why its not a good idea??
How about that it won't take a single HGV off the A14, or really ease congestion, or that its not "silent" like CCC said it would be???
And thats just off the top of my head!!

Don't you think its all about scoring Brownie Points ?  TYPICAL POLITICAL POSTURING !!?? Or, getting their five-pence worth in? Upset, because they didn't think of the idea first of having the Busway.

Its just so utterly pathetic!! Like a couple of kiddies arguing over a toy??

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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2008, 11:07:48 PM »
Like coming up with a better reason why its not a good idea??
How about that it won't take a single HGV off the A14.....

Quite right, it won't, but neither would a reinstated railway, despite the twaddle from the CASTIRON clique.

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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2008, 11:16:55 PM »
Like coming up with a better reason why its not a good idea??
How about that it won't take a single HGV off the A14.....

Quite right, it won't, but neither would a reinstated railway, despite the twaddle from the CASTIRON clique.

Must admit, it been a long time now with "Wall to wall" lorries on the A14. I can never understand the reason for "trundling" a container from Felixstowe all the way up to, say Glasgow or Dundee, when it seems far simpler by rail and just doing the very last few miles by road?  Must be down to costing, and also the fact that the Railways have always "priced themselves out of the market"

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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2008, 11:40:04 AM »
Like coming up with a better reason why its not a good idea??
How about that it won't take a single HGV off the A14.....
Quite right, it won't, but neither would a reinstated railway, despite the twaddle from the CASTIRON clique.
Must admit, it been a long time now with "Wall to wall" lorries on the A14. I can never understand the reason for "trundling" a container from Felixstowe all the way up to, say Glasgow or Dundee, when it seems far simpler by rail and just doing the very last few miles by road?  Must be down to costing, and also the fact that the Railways have always "priced themselves out of the market"
Indeed, what would take lorries off the A14 would be further development of container train routes from Felixstowe to the midlands and the north.
Off the top of my head:
  • improving loading gauges on all lines used by Felixtowe container trains
  • electrifying the Stowmarket to Peterborough link
would be a good start.
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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2008, 02:05:29 PM »
And re-opening the line between Cambridge and Huntingdon to allow freight and passenger trains to use it. oops sorry can't do that. Some one had the bright idea of putting a guided bus way in its place. That won't take an iota of traffic off the A14.

Incidentally why isn't the EU contributing money towards the 'improved' A14 between Ellington and Cambridge. A lot of foreign vehicles use it as it is the major trunk road from East coast ports to the Midlands etc.

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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2008, 05:38:50 PM »
And re-opening the line between Cambridge and Huntingdon to allow freight and passenger trains to use it. oops sorry can't do that. Some one had the bright idea of putting a guided bus way in its place. That won't take an iota of traffic off the A14.

Incidentally why isn't the EU contributing money towards the 'improved' A14 between Ellington and Cambridge. A lot of foreign vehicles use it as it is the major trunk road from East coast ports to the Midlands etc.

Good point there, nearly every other lorry is a "continental"  Half of them practically live over here!!

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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2008, 06:07:37 PM »
And re-opening the line between Cambridge and Huntingdon to allow freight and passenger trains to use it. oops sorry can't do that. Some one had the bright idea of putting a guided bus way in its place. That won't take an iota of traffic off the A14.

Incidentally why isn't the EU contributing money towards the 'improved' A14 between Ellington and Cambridge. A lot of foreign vehicles use it as it is the major trunk road from East coast ports to the Midlands etc.

Good point there, nearly every other lorry is a "continental"  Half of them practically live over here!!

There was talk that some of them only pop home to fill up benefiting from a reduced fuel price due to duty differences.

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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2008, 07:58:47 PM »
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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2008, 07:53:47 AM »
There may seem to be some capacity between Ely and  Peterborough but it's at the wrong time for the ports,this coupled with the signal boxes being manual means it may seem there is a path,but because of the distances between signal boxes the time is greatly reduced,paths are paid for by train operators and if you run a train and it delays the booked service then compesation has to be paid.
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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2008, 09:18:26 AM »
The A14 is the E28 in European terms.

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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2008, 05:33:38 PM »

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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2008, 08:08:43 AM »
Julia the actual single track bit is from Soham to Ely and is the main reason for restrictions on the route,the old signalling system does not help,with the service that operates it is difficult to find path as it also includes train coming of the branch from Cambridge,I say this from my days as a Controller located at Cambridge
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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2008, 12:54:31 PM »
Wouldn't it be nice to re-open the line between Huntingdon and Kettering via Kimbolton and Thrapston. OK is was closed 50 years ago but a lot of the infrastucture is still there between Huntingdon and Thrapston. I see much of it on my many country walks.

Pity the A14 (E28) is in the way west of Thrapston.

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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2008, 01:21:15 PM »
The attention deficit hyperactivity disorder suffering Lib Dem lot are still at it:-

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/cn_news_home/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=359085

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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2008, 06:27:51 PM »
What?

They need their heads looked at.

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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2008, 06:51:46 PM »
I like how there is no explanation of how this mystery 33 bus stop figure was arrived at.

Does anyone know what minimum spec for environmental standards is on the Guided Busway. I note Stagecoach will be using Euro 4 and 5 vehicles. Which if I'm not mistaken is an improvement on the current usage.

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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2008, 07:25:03 PM »
I like how there is no explanation of how this mystery 33 bus stop figure was arrived at.

Does anyone know what minimum spec for environmental standards is on the Guided Busway. I note Stagecoach will be using Euro 4 and 5 vehicles. Which if I'm not mistaken is an improvement on the current usage.
Only Euro4 buses in Cambridge at the moment are the Enviro200s and 400s, the Solos and the 06 plate Darts..

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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2008, 10:17:58 PM »
I think (I hope) that the LibDems whom run Cambridge City Council are a bit of an embarrassment in national terms.

They seem to be a group of people who - and Cllr Colin Rosenstiel is one of the worst examples of this - who are constant oppositionists, rather like the Swoopies ('Socialist' W**kers Party) on the extreme left or the BNFP (British Nazionalist Fascist Party) on the extreme right. The Cambridge LibDems are extreme fence-sitters (ouch!).

It's just fine for an opposition party - it keeps those in power on their toes by 'thinking the unthinkable' and asking the unaskable'. In power it's very much  case of 'f*** what are we supposed to do?'

The 'worthy' Cllr Colin Rosenstiel was, in fact, chased from our street, when out canvassing a year, or so, ago, over City council mis-management of local issues by a group of residents who included a righteously-angry neighbour who's well into her eighties.
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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2008, 01:19:31 PM »
All the candidates in my area were spectacularly carp last year - between the three main parties not one of them was for one positive and specified thing about transport.  The only thing the Lid Dems actually managed to specify that they were 'for' at all was something to do with free range chicken in school meals.

Lib Dems were against everything to do with transport, and Labour was either against everything, or for vague unspecified things, or for things being somewhere else but not here.  Labour were also spectacularly parachial and nimbyest.  They wanted new deveopments to be outwith Cambridge, but they didn't want anything to be done for transport in Cambridge that wasn't for the benefit of people that actually live here :s

I e-mailed them all to ask if they thought what they'd said was really sensible.  The only person that replied was the Labour one, who got back in touch to tell me that I was wrong.  At least he didn't lie to try and get a vote...

Well, I call them the three main parties, following what the leaflets looked like I'm not surprised the main party out of them ended up being the Greens...

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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #25 on: December 25, 2008, 11:14:29 AM »
Oh, dear. The knockers are at it again: here's a report from the Cambridge News.

Busway carol is a radio hit.

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NOT even Christmas can prevent detractors of the guided busway from mocking the scheme.
But at least the disagreements have taken on a more festive medium - the carol.
April Martin, of Black Horse Lane, Swavesey, put some verses on the busway to the tune of In the Bleak Midwinter in a letter to the News earlier this month.
And now it has taken on a new lease of life on BBC Radio Cambridgeshire.

The 'carol' can be found here:

Cambridgeshire carol From April Martin

I don't think it scans; I can't see how it fits the tune. Or is it just the dumb way that the Cambridge News has set it in print? Or all of these?
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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2008, 10:16:48 AM »
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Re: Another row breaks out over Guided Bus Way
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2008, 03:40:36 PM »
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