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Route H1 withdrawn
« on: November 10, 2009, 10:12:22 PM »
Route H1, which runs between Loughton and Harlow, via Debden, Epping and North Weald, will be withdrawn from the 18th December 2009, following reduction in council funding, and reduction of passengers (although I still find this route gets quite busy).
This is my favourite route, and Im gonna miss it!  ;D

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Re: Route H1 withdrawn
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2009, 05:02:40 PM »
ECC have advertised a tender starting 19 Dec.

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Re: Route H1 withdrawn
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2009, 08:17:43 PM »
Thats great news, thanks for this NESW.

Where did you find out about this? Ive looked everywhere!

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Re: Route H1 withdrawn
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2009, 11:20:48 PM »
I blame the operator- it was a good route when Imperial put the effort in and got the G-VBB Olympians and kept them in tidy condition. Now it's any old pile of junk and the timetable keeps changing it's no wonder they lose business.

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Re: Route H1 withdrawn
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2009, 05:31:18 PM »
If anyones interested, there will now be a replacement service for the withdrawn H1

Travel with Hunny's old route 55 which ran in direct competition with the H1 will return on 4/1/10
This time, i think it may be funded by Essex County Council (just like the H1)

Travel with Hunny's current 55 (Epping to Ongar) will become the same route, with some journeys from this route remaining with the relaunched 55.


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Re: Route H1 withdrawn
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2009, 07:10:27 PM »
TWH's old "route 55" fell down the Imperial trap, started off with good intention with repainted and branded (reasonable) secondhand buses, then simply couldn't be bothered and put in the half-baked NWF or whatever it was called, i.e. a shuttle in/out of Central Lines at peak times only. Lets see if Travel with hunny mummy manage it a bit better this time...

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Re: Route H1 withdrawn
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2009, 08:08:54 PM »
I hope so too!

Well, at least this time there is no competition, and is now the only direct bus route from Loughton and Debden to Epping (there is also the 541 which goes around Abridge and Theydon Bois), and now the only route from Debden and Loughton to Harlow.

TWH also have the experience of the previous 55, and I THINK this time it will be funded by Essex CC.

Another point- TWH are probably more financially stable now that they are operating the Essex CC funded (not contract) route 392, so have something to fall back on.

Also, as TWH is part of the Intalink partnership, im hoping the 55 will accept the Explorer ticket aswell!  ;D

One thing I dont like about this new route is the circular operation around Loughton and Debden. I like a route which has two terminus points. At least if you were waiting at Loughton Station, you could see the H1 bus waiting in the bus stand, so that you knew it was going to operate.  ;D

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Re: Route H1 withdrawn
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2009, 05:27:23 PM »
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Re: Route H1 withdrawn
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2009, 06:43:14 PM »
Thanks Suzy!!  ;D

So, Regal Busways will be operating the Saturday service on 19th Dec, with the 55 starting operations on 21st Dec! Interesting..i might try and use both services, depending on time and money  ;D

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Re: Route H1 withdrawn
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2009, 12:19:38 PM »
Thanks Suzy!!  ;D

So, Regal Busways will be operating the Saturday service on 19th Dec, with the 55 starting operations on 21st Dec! Interesting..i might try and use both services, depending on time and money  ;D

E-mailed Regal (who were very helpful) and they tell me that as an Essex CC contract the service will have to be a DDA compliant vehicle so will NOT be a once-in-a-lifetime chance to ride on one of thier Olympians!

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Re: Route H1 withdrawn
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2009, 05:22:17 PM »
Darn, I ve always wanted to ride one of their Olympians  ;D

This may sound incredibly stupid, but what does DDA mean?

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Re: Route H1 withdrawn
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2009, 05:25:47 PM »
Disability Discrimination Act, all new PCV's these days have to comply with it.

Basically to comply they have to be wheelchair accessible, have front side and rear blinds and have handrails in a visible colour for people with impaired vision and so on.

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Re: Route H1 withdrawn
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2009, 05:46:58 PM »
Darn, I ve always wanted to ride one of their Olympians  ;D

This may sound incredibly stupid, but what does DDA mean?
Disability Discrimination Act, all new PCV's these days have to comply with it.

Basically to comply they have to be wheelchair accessible, have front side and rear blinds and have handrails in a visible colour for people with impaired vision and so on.
All buses operated on local services must be DDA-compliant by 2017 I think, so you best start savouring non-low floor bus rides while you can (especially Leyland Olympians)
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Re: Route H1 withdrawn
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2009, 05:59:15 PM »
It going to be something to tell the kids when Im older;

"in my day, buses had steps on them"

Aswell as, "In my day, there used to be Woolworths" 

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Re: Route H1 withdrawn
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2009, 01:37:43 PM »
Regal Busways operated MCV Evolution 701 (AE55EHM) today on the now Saturday-only H1.

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Re: Route H1 withdrawn
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2009, 12:04:15 PM »
That bus is very smart- and suited to the route.
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Re: Route H1 withdrawn
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2010, 08:48:13 PM »
So should we exspect some vehicle sales at Imperial now that they are not operating the H1 no more?
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Re: Route H1 withdrawn
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2010, 08:56:20 PM »
So should we exspect some vehicle sales at Imperial now that they are not operating the H1 no more?

Well those 3 Leyland Olympian/Northern Counties dedicated to the route (although not sure if 3 still remain) will probably be scrapped (or sold) , seeing how old they are, but may be kept on for rail replacements. The remaining step-entrance single decks will probably be cleared out, they have plenty of low-floors now.
Imperial seems to be disappearing, or down-sizing. I dont seem to hear about them much at all.

If some of their buses are sold, im suspecting they may be given to Ensignbus (who may put them on the website to sell them on to other operators). You probably know this already, but its http://ticketslondon-online.biz/ for the Ensign website

 :)