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Offline Andy

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Busway Reporters Required!
« on: August 06, 2011, 05:55:53 PM »
I will be sampleing the busway later this week and am planning to do a special report for my blog looking at the bus enthusiasts view of the busway...

So, if you are planning on using the guided busway this week I would love to hear your opinions and reviews (both good and bad!) and also welcome your photos for use on the blog - all submitted work will be fully credited (or not if you wish to remain anonymous!)

If you want to get in touch email andrewjames16@googlemail.com

Thanks,
Andy :)

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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2011, 09:07:48 PM »
will be going on monday. happy to help :)

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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2011, 09:36:45 PM »
will be going on monday. happy to help :)
Cheers, it'll be nice to have different peoples perspectives.

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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2011, 08:14:10 AM »
Will send you some photos of todays runings :)

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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2011, 12:07:52 PM »
Am just about to go onto the busway for the return journey.  Will give you a report when I get home...

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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2011, 01:16:18 PM »
Am just about to go onto the busway for the return journey.  Will give you a report when I get home...
Will send you some photos of todays runings :)
Thanks Barry/Jamie, enjoy!

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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2011, 01:48:21 PM »
Feel free to nick any text from the other thread and credit to BB :)

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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2011, 09:35:58 PM »
ill be on it monday aswell so more than happy to report
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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2011, 05:34:32 PM »
First weekday/first day of the south section/second day of the north section of the Busway - here is what was seen...
http://suzyscottdotcom.livejournal.com/372762.html

... feel free to reuse any of the images that are on there, or text, and link back as required - just a credit to me somewhere is fine!
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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2011, 06:03:09 PM »
First weekday/first day of the south section/second day of the north section of the Busway - here is what was seen...
http://suzyscottdotcom.livejournal.com/372762.html

... feel free to reuse any of the images that are on there, or text, and link back as required - just a credit to me somewhere is fine!
Thanks Suzy, just read your LJ, looks like a good day - looking forward to trying it out myself in the near future!

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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2011, 03:29:35 PM »
Dateline Friday 12 August 2011
Posting realtime via on-board wi-fi.

Route A
Boarded, Parkside, 15:18 (approx) Stop not listed in timetable timing consistent with Rail Stn departure.
Large N° of passengers boarded @ New Sq. Departed 6 mins down. Approx 5 seats available.

Slow crawl north on Milton Rd, from Elizabeth Way to Milton Rd.

Passing Kings Hedges Rd Golden Hind 15:35.

Science Park 4 on 3 off. Dep 15:37 (4 mins down). 1 standee.

CRC 1 on, 1 off. 1 standee.

15:40 Driver halts after A14 bridge to speak with young cyclists lurking on cycleway.

15:41 Driver halts before Histon to speak with driver of Cambridge-bound B, presumably about young cyclists lurking on cycleway.

Histon 3 off, 1 on.

Oakington 0 on or off.

Longstanton P&R family of 3 about to disembark, change mind. Depart 15:50 (7 mins down).

Swavesey 2 on, 5 off (including baby in buggy). Dep 15:53 (5 mins down).

Fen Drayton Reserve 3 off 4 on. Dep 15:57.

St Ives P&R (terminus) Arr 16:00 (7 mins down).

Journey continued to St Ives bus station on the following B.

Two Bs arrived together, 16:07.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2011, 05:59:58 PM by TCD813 »
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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2011, 06:04:23 PM »
Return journey.
Route C

Dep St Ives bus Stn 16:53 (3 mins down) 19 passengers.

St Ives P&R 3 board. Dep 16:55 (2 mins down).

Fen Drayton Reserve 2 off. Dep 16:58.

Approaching Swavesey CCC Highways van on maintenance track.

Swavesey no halt. Dep 17:01 (3 mins down).

Longstanton P&R 5 off. Dep 17:04  (1 min down).

Oakington 2off. Dep 17:08  (2 mins down).

Histon 1 off, 1 on. Dep 17:11  (2 mins down).

CRC no halt. Dep 17:14.

Science Park 1 on. Dep 17:15  (2 mins down).

Milton Rd, Union Lane 4 off.  Dep 17:20  (4 mins down).

New Sq 3 off. Arr 17:26 on time.

Set down in Emanuel St, handy for Citi2.
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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2011, 05:50:27 PM »
The current edition of Route One magazine (issue 378) has an article about the busway, which includes journeys, timings, etc.

Click on 'BRT comes of age' on the cover to go straight to the article.
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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2011, 05:55:52 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2011, 03:10:17 PM »
Having finally got around to travelling on the Busway yesterday, I guess I might as well post my review of the journey.

I started my journey from Trumpington P&R, where I planned to catch the A to St Ives P&R and get some photos. I found the automated ticket machine fairly simple to use - although I ended up showing several people in the queue behind me how to work the machine so they could purchase tickets. Most people ignored the machines altogether and insisted on buying tickets from the driver, although the bus still left dead on time. Heading along the guideway section towards Addenbrookes wasn't quite what I was expecting, with the bus continually hunting back and forth between the kerbs on the corners, but on the straight we were soon doing our limited 56mph towards Addenbrookes!
After doing a lap of the hospital we returned to the guideway towards the railway station, and upon arrival had to thread through at least two sets of roadworks for the bus gate from the junction of Brooklands Avenue. After crawling through the City Centre and along Milton Rd we were soon back on the guideway and the bus was once again up against the limiter for the entire journey, to the point where the aroma of "hot bus" filled the back of the saloon! The Kings Hedges section was a bit rumbly and had a few gaps that caused jolts, but the section from Histon onwards was surprisingly smooth.

I caught the B on the return journey which was operated by Scania AE10HFA - aside from it being packed the bus didn't sound at all healthy, and didn't seem to sit on the guideway as happily as the B7RLE's do with a slightly bouncy ride. I didn't really keep an eye on timekeeping, but the A's seemed to be running pretty much to time along with the C, while the B appeared to turn up almost randomly......

Was impressed with the comfort of the journey and the engineering aspect of the busway, but I do question the value of building the P&R sites (which still appear to be under construction!) and also how the services are operated. People won't use the St Ives or Longstanton P&R if they can simply go to Cowley Rd and get a far cheaper return ticket into town.

Cost-wise, a day trip to St Ives using the Busway works out as a similar cost to using my car, as parking in St Ives is very cheap. I'm not sure it will convince hard-core motorists at all, although judging by how busy the services were a lot of people are certainly giving it a go over their car!

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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2011, 06:36:46 PM »
A visit to the area this weekend gave me good reason to sample the Busway, which I did today.
Report and photos to follow....

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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2011, 12:12:17 PM »
Having now used the northern section for three return trips to St Ives (Fri 12/08/11, Sun 14/08/11, Sat 27/08/11) I've noticed two main points:

  • very heavy loadings, even with duplicates running;
  • the large number of passengers who seem to be new to bus travel.

Symptoms of the latter are:
  • adults who are excited by travelling on the upper deck;
  • some nervousness about where the bell-push is and when to press it;
  • people gathered around the timetable boards in St Ives bus station, pondering from which stand and at what time the B will depart;
  • passengers for the outbound B waiting at the inbound stop in Round Church Street, Cambridge.

Have other Forum members noticed this? (Drivers will, no doubt, have noticed a lot more than this occasional passenger!)

And what do Forum members think that this all means?

Is this still novelty value after three weeks?

Is it (hopefully) the predicted massive boost to bus ridership which was so derided by many during the Busway's construction phase?
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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2011, 02:57:05 PM »
It is, hopefully from the point of view of us poor drivers, still the Novelty thing...

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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2011, 04:00:48 PM »
What do you expect from them,most have not been on a bus for years,it's a novelty at present,in a couple of months things will settle down and the bus will have plenty of room
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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2011, 05:03:18 PM »
when the schools go back there be loads of room. you might even get empty buses in the day, with all the extra ones planned

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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2011, 05:13:52 PM »
when the schools go back there be loads of room. you might even get empty buses in the day, with all the extra ones planned

Bloomin' well 'ope so ;)

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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2011, 05:39:27 PM »
Just seen the Sunday Whippet 17:10 C from the CRC/Science Park depart more or less full. Followed a B to Huntingdon also similarly full (surprised at how much the Scania Enviro 400's wobble about a lot compared to the Dennis versions - reminds me of a Scania Metropolitan!)

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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2011, 06:16:11 PM »
... you might even get empty buses in the day, with all the extra ones planned

That's if Sir Brian accedes to Andy Campbell's request for more buses!
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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2011, 06:47:14 PM »
Just seen the Sunday Whippet 17:10 C from the CRC/Science Park depart more or less full. Followed a B to Huntingdon also similarly full (surprised at how much the Scania Enviro 400's wobble about a lot compared to the Dennis versions - reminds me of a Scania Metropolitan!)
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« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2011, 11:00:30 PM »
I was out lunchtime with the dog when one of the deckers, blinded for the A passed us on the Orchard Park spur heading for St Ives P&R site
Thats intriguing, given that the Sunday services are all Bs and run through to the Bus Station.
http://thebusway.info/uploads/busway_sundaysaugust2011.pdf

Unless this was an extra relief service....

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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2011, 12:59:41 AM »
when abouts the new buses came? just want to now as no email about not from here or any were else
this photo is a 53 reg Trident what I'm on and its 18058 yes it is Chris johnson

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Re: Busway Reporters Required!
« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2011, 08:01:01 AM »
when abouts the new buses came? just want to now as no email about not from here or any were else

I'm confused

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« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2011, 09:42:12 AM »
when abouts the new buses came? just want to now as no email about not from here or any were else

I wondered, Chris, if your query was about this comment on another thread:

Hunts Post reports that Stagecoach are looking to add 20 additional journeys to the timetable and that Andy Campbell is in discussions with Brian Souter about purchasing six additional busway spec vehicles for the service...

www.huntspost.co.uk/news/latest-news/guided_buses_prove_so_popular_that_stagecoach_may_buy_more_vehicles_1_1003246
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« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2011, 04:40:39 PM »
ok
this photo is a 53 reg Trident what I'm on and its 18058 yes it is Chris johnson

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« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2011, 10:10:35 PM »
OK here it is, my report of my visit to the Busway on Saturday.  Have tried to describe the operations on the day as well as the Busway itself, with some comments on the way.  Will try and get some photos up over the weekend.