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Re: Oh Dear - Where are they going
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2015, 09:07:26 PM »
Stagecoach will try to break the strike.  The only way to fight for a higher wage is to not work for the company.  It happened in Cambridge years ago but the subsequent driver shortage pushed wage rates up anyway.

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Oh Dear - Where are they going
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2015, 10:15:39 PM »
http://www.lynnnews.co.uk/news/local/latest-local-news/strike-warning-in-king-s-lynn-bus-drivers-pay-dispute-1-6956736


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Strike warning in King’s Lynn bus drivers’ pay dispute

published 07:00 Tuesday 15 September 2015 
 
Bus passengers in West Norfolk are being warned of the prospect of industrial action for the second time this year, this time in a dispute over pay.

Earlier this year, Rail Maritime and Transport (RMT) union officials began to ballot for industrial action among its Norfolk Green staff in a dispute over union recognition, which was subsequently resolved in its favour.

But workers at the Lynn depot, owned by Stagecoach, are now said to be “incensed” over their latest pay offer.
 
The union is recommending to its members to go to ballot for industrial action.

But bosses at Stagecoach say the offer is fair and have vowed that passengers will be not inconvenienced.

Brian Whitehead, regional organiser for the RMT, said: “My recommendation to the membership is if they want better than they have got they are going to have to fight for it.

“The feedback we have got so far is that they are insulted and prepared to fight and that is what we will do on their behalf.

“Unless Stagecoach move, there will be a ballot soon.”
 
Drivers are currently paid £8.50 an hour with a 75p an hour attendance allowance.

The RMT want to see 125 Lynn drivers paid in line with their counterparts in Cambridge who receive £3 an hour more.

The union says Lynn drivers have been offered a 15p an hour increase for this year, followed by 20p in 2016 and 29p in 2017.

But these figures have been disputed by the company. Stagecoach says its offer would see 25p of the attendance allowance and additional 15p would bring the hourly rate to £8.90 for this year. The hourly rate could rise to £9.35 in 2016 and £9.89 in 2017.

Mr Whitehead said the company’s pay offer is not “no where near enough to live on”.

He said: “We have asked for the pay offer to be put in writing and then we will liaise with our members. They are really incensed and find the offer insulting.

“The company have just said ‘tough’ and would not even debate it or talk about it.”

Managing director of Stagecoach Andy Campbell said the business can only afford to pay what profit it makes and that it was a “lovely aspiration” for Lynn drivers to want the same pay as Cambridge colleagues.

He said: “Cambridge has a higher volume of people using the bus services therefore it can afford to pay higher rates of pay.

“I would like the staff to consider the offer and look at it in terms of what is happening in terms of other industries. I believe it is a fair offer.
“If there is a dispute we will do our best so our customers will not be inconvenienced.”

Think the money is quite good for the area, Lynn though is cheaper to live than Cambridge, think personally the drivers are taking the mick
« Last Edit: September 15, 2015, 10:18:48 PM by Coast_Hopper »

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Re: Oh Dear - Where are they going
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2015, 06:29:26 AM »
There has got to be only the town services that are making any money, nearly all the Hunstanton buses are empty, Lynx definitely have the upper hand even though they charge more money, then again Lynx are pensioner based

Noticed there isn't as many use the Spalding service as there once was, those Spectras used to be full up running every 20 minutes now you sometimes see a Dart on the route or a Solo

Really think they are trying to get nearer £10 an hour which is what First get but the X1 pays for itself though
« Last Edit: September 16, 2015, 06:31:14 AM by Coast_Hopper »

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Re: Oh Dear - Where are they going
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2015, 07:09:00 AM »
No doubt when the Drivers are all made redundant , because Stagecoach closes the operation down . The Drivers will be extremely happy they voted for Strike Action .
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Re: Oh Dear - Where are they going
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2015, 09:24:39 AM »
Stagecoach pay different rates at each depot, I think.  Fenstanton used to be lower than Cambridge.  It has its quirks as outstations get the main depot rate hence Ely and Haverhill get the Cambridge rate as far as I know.  It gives Stephenson retention problems in Haverhill because of the differential with Stagecoach.

I would like to think the First rate in Lynn is a deliberate effort to attract and retain the best drivers available but it is probably because they pay the Norwich rate as the Lynn depot is so small it is not worth the hassle of a different rate.

I always thought the viability of Norfolk Green was down to the local knowledge of the management and their ability to promote the service.  However good the Cambridge management, that is likely to get lost with the takeover so the more marginal services will wither away (or be taken over by Lynx).

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Re: Oh Dear - Where are they going
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2015, 06:20:25 PM »
Not quite sure where you get this idea from as my observation are the opposite.
I have seen Norfolk Green on Hunstanton runs with good loadings and Lynx with only a few.
The main buses on the 505 are double decks and for some reason this increased the usage.
Have you anything to do with Lynx by the way?.

No, nothing to do with Lynx lol, just my observation since Lynx come about, yes I have seen Norfolk Green buses full as well but I think Lynx have the upper hand though, their buses are run a minute earlier, they sit in Lynn bus station 5 or 10 minutes before departure to nab those that get on the first bus that turns up, and like some.of the pensioners told me the buses are cleaner and they don't use NG as the buses are dirty,

Me personally I find the Lynx drivers rude as I travel with a train ticket and as I don't give them money they get narky about it, NG don't care