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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #240 on: July 24, 2019, 12:23:04 PM »
Are they crash on all gears? I’d kind of assumed they would’ve been synchro on 3rd/4th at least.

No syncro on a FLF, full crash gearbox except for an overdrive top which can be a b*****d to come out of back to 4th gear.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #241 on: July 25, 2019, 01:07:09 PM »
36935 on 4/10 a rather interesting experience especially down Brookfield road, the boundary and cricket lane especially as there was a solo working the 5.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #242 on: July 25, 2019, 03:11:49 PM »
Cambridge an Elite-free zone this morning peak as 19888, 53615, 19891 were consecutive arrivals on the X5.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #243 on: July 25, 2019, 03:23:14 PM »
Cambridge an Elite-free zone this morning peak as 19888, 53615, 19891 were consecutive arrivals on the X5.

There's at least 3 useless Elites off the road at the moment.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #244 on: July 25, 2019, 07:13:16 PM »
Thanks to the online bus map, could see four E400s on the road this afternoon east of Bedford, plus 53615 again. Really not happy that our end of the route gets the worst of it!

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #245 on: July 25, 2019, 07:28:10 PM »
Thanks to the online bus map, could see four E400s on the road this afternoon east of Bedford, plus 53615 again. Really not happy that our end of the route gets the worst of it!

The services that suffer the most from a shortage of coaches are Bedford town services especially the 1 and 9. They have endure sometimes crushloaded Solo's and Darts instead of E400's becuase those useless Elites aren't fit for purpose and need to be withdrawn and replaced!

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #246 on: July 26, 2019, 03:32:27 PM »
Hopefully the powers that be will see sense and when the next ten Scanias arrive in Cambridge and displace E400s, they can go towards strengthening Bedford's fleet rather than scrapping off the oldest Tridents. (That is, after padding out Cambridge's fleet enough that we can dispense with the smallest Darts on the citi 2!)

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #247 on: July 26, 2019, 05:26:56 PM »
Hopefully the powers that be will see sense and when the next ten Scanias arrive in Cambridge and displace E400s, they can go towards strengthening Bedford's fleet rather than scrapping off the oldest Tridents. (That is, after padding out Cambridge's fleet enough that we can dispense with the smallest Darts on the citi 2!)


Chance will be a fine thing. The 08 plate E200's Cambridge pinched from Bedford for the Citi 2 would be very useful if they returned as well as some extra E400's that would see off the remaining 9 Darts

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #248 on: July 26, 2019, 10:03:05 PM »


Chance will be a fine thing. The 08 plate E200's Cambridge pinched from Bedford for the Citi 2 would be very useful if they returned as well as some extra E400's that would see off the remaining 9 Darts

Fenstanton also deserves something a bit better, as their darts strain on the 66 along the A1.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #249 on: July 26, 2019, 10:27:15 PM »
Fenstanton also deserves something a bit better, as their darts strain on the 66 along the A1.



Apart from for the Busway which seems to be the main priority for Stagecoach East. Fenstanton are at the bottom of the pecking order for newer vehicles. As what was done when they received the 04 plate Darts from Peterborough to replace their ex Bedford 53 plate Darts. They will again most likely get whatever Bedford and Peterborough don't want so their 04 plate Darts will probably be replaced by 06 plate Darts from either Bedford or Peterborough whenever those are released.
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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #250 on: July 29, 2019, 11:27:36 AM »
Apart from for the Busway which seems to be the main priority for Stagecoach East. Fenstanton are at the bottom of the pecking order for newer vehicles. As what was done when they received the 04 plate Darts from Peterborough to replace their ex Bedford 53 plate Darts. They will again most likely get whatever Bedford and Peterborough don't want so their 04 plate Darts will probably be replaced by 06 plate Darts from either Bedford or Peterborough whenever those are released.

It is quite a complex process when bids are made for new vehicles. The business case needs to look at the income potential, both current and ongoing to justify the new vehicles. As I understand it the operating company does not have to cover the full cost of the new vehicles as soon as they are delivered, but they do get charged a depreciation amount each four week period.That means that for a new bus the monthly coast could be, as an example, between £750 and £1000. That is why marginal earning routes get cascaded mid-life vehicles and not new vehicles. There will always be routes/depots that do not get new buses but mid-life replacements.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #251 on: July 30, 2019, 08:21:17 PM »
New/visiting in Bedford is 19586 from Cambridge, has spent its day on 1’a.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #252 on: July 31, 2019, 01:50:23 PM »
New/visiting in Bedford is 19586 from Cambridge, has spent its day on 1’a.

Thanks. After returning from the Isle of Man, I looked on the radar this morning and saw 19586 showing up on the 0800 9A and thought the system was throwing another wobbly. At least my first bus back to work this morning was on a winner 39686 on the 0936 50. I have now had to advise the boss that if a future winner shows up for the morning 50 I will be four minutes later getting to the office as the 50 route timetable changed on 28 July in my absence.

18336 did a 9B before going onto route 6 and 18419 was on 1's and 18423 on 53's. Tragically 48034 was on 5's, 19702 did the 0856 X5 to Cambridge and the good old 0800 from Cambridge was 19893 so the 0556 from Bedford service is still going strong for E400's as it was before I disappeared last Tuesday. 19705 worked the 0830 X5 from Cambridge and 19890 did the 0726 to Cambridge.

I have just noticed 39683 is on the 1336 50 and 27520 is heading towards MK on a 99.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #253 on: August 01, 2019, 02:03:55 PM »
I had to suffer the consequences of leaving early from work yesterday as my crate on route 6 was 48034 but at least I could have winner 19586 on a 9A/B to get home as it had trundled back and forth along the route all day. Alas no, as it was ripped and plonked onto 5's instead so I was withered. Cheers then! I had to make do with 19706 on the 9A. Curiously 19888 arrived on a 5 in the Cambridge bay so either it was an X5 minus the X or it was about to go onto an X5 service straight off a 5.

One thing noticeable was a disturbing number of Hitchin services reduced to single deckers brought on by the lazy Elites doing nothing rather like the so called elite in Parliament. If you want something to do the job it is meant to do then don't refer to a bus type as an Elite as it is inviting ridicule...

The Northampton buses having a change of scenery on the W7 were 37049, 37064, 36163 and 37060 in that order.

This morning's carts to work were 19700 on the 9 and 15405 on the 0936 50 as I was late for work which was self inflicted after a dose of TV-itus. Of interest 19704 was on the other 9 diagram so a bit of a surprise they could be spared from the X5. As ever the 0800 X5 from Cambridge dropped 19893, same vehicle as yesterday, 19705 did the 0726 to Cambridge whilst 19699 was on the 0910 from Cambridge.

It is the turn of 27642 today to enjoy a day on the 99's.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #254 on: August 01, 2019, 08:11:11 PM »
I was in St. Neots for a few hours today and all the X5s that I saw were Elites. I do wonder whether double deckers are substituted in the early mornings to provide additional seating into Cambridge. Just a thought.

Slightly off topic but that was a Guided Busway double decker on the 66 to Huntingdon. 

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #255 on: August 02, 2019, 01:56:27 PM »
I was in St. Neots for a few hours today and all the X5s that I saw were Elites. I do wonder whether double deckers are substituted in the early mornings to provide additional seating into Cambridge. Just a thought.

Slightly off topic but that was a Guided Busway double decker on the 66 to Huntingdon.

To be fair I only spotted three E400's on the X5 yesterday whereas the previous day I noted five so it may well be that some of the poorly named Elite's have returned. I have again counted three E400's on the X5 this morning with the solid 0800 from Cambridge producing 19890, whilst 19702 did the 0656 to Cambridge and 19699 was on the 0731 from MK.

My buses home yesterday were 27646 on a 6 and 19704 on a 9. 27642's jolly jaunt on the 99 can't have lasted long as it passed me on a 6. This morning my buses to work were 18424 on a 9 and 37435 on the 0911 6 which left five minutes late awaiting a driver. 18424 then got swapped onto route 5. The other three tridents were all out on 1's. 15405 did the 0836 50 and 11126 passed me inbound to form the 0936 50.

I was not able to trace 19586 this morning on the radar so I could attempt to have it...

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #256 on: August 02, 2019, 04:25:55 PM »
I was in St. Neots for a few hours today and all the X5s that I saw were Elites. I do wonder whether double deckers are substituted in the early mornings to provide additional seating into Cambridge. Just a thought.

Definitely not capacity reasons, when the Elites run they are at most 70% full. And in the evening, even when the 1725 from Cambridge is cancelled (which it regularly is) the 1740 rarely gets completely full.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #257 on: August 02, 2019, 05:27:48 PM »
Julia will be amazed to find out that the 1725 is actually running this evening! I'm watching it right now on the Smart Cambridge live bus map...

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #258 on: August 02, 2019, 07:29:32 PM »
Yay! Sadly I didn't get into town early enough, and the 1740 was significantly late.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #259 on: August 06, 2019, 01:27:43 PM »
On Saturday I did the 0826 X5 to Cambridge which was 19888 which was a sound move as it appeared to be the only decker in service on the route that morning. After a day in Norfolk and Suffolk I dared to go home on the 2340 to Bedford with 54316. It is the first time I have ever done the last service of the day from Cambridge.

Yesterday 18336, 18423 and 18424 were noted on 1's whilst 18101 was on a 50. My buses home were 19891 on a 6 and 19698 on the 1745 9 which departed before 19706 on the 1730 9B. However, some people missed the 1745 after being instructed to go to gate L when in fact 19698 left from G. Still it makes a change that someone actually came out of the office to explain why the 1730 was so late and advising people the 1745 would go first so I won't knock it. 28627 and 37110 were out on W7's.

This morning I had 19889 on a 9A and 27523 on a 6. 18336 was on a 9A to Hitchin, 18419 and 18423 were on 1's and 18424 arrived empty from the garage. The trusty 0800 X5 from Cambridge was 19706, with 19704 behind it on the 0815 from Cambridge. For good measure the 0910 from Cambridge was 19698. By lunchtime this had changed as 19698 went onto Hitchin's, 18336 went on to 5's, 18424 took over 9's and 11127 did the 1236 50.

I see 20215 is meant to be in Bedford on Saturday. Now that should be used in service, far better than any of the 27xxx piffle.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #260 on: August 08, 2019, 12:49:58 PM »
My bus home on Tuesday on the 9 was 18424. Just as well I missed the 81 to Luton as that was 36301. It's mate 36302 was ripped from the 2 and replaced by 19706 whilst 37048 was on a W7.

My 9 into town today was 19891 whilst 18336 did a 9A and the other three tridents were on 1's so very little change there. 11127 did the 0836 50 and 19701 produced for the 0731 X5 from MK to Cambridge. 19889 had apparently done the 0656 to Cambridge but there was no info on the 0800 from Cambridge as it was not tracked by the looks of it unless it was caped which seems unlikely. The usual fare of 27520 conveyed me to work on the 6 and in the meantime route 81 customers were having their second treat of the week with 36302... :o

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #261 on: August 08, 2019, 01:12:42 PM »
Only one interesting spotting in Bedford today and that was 36302 working an 81, what a luxurious journey that must have been in what I call one of the big brother buses due to the unbelievably large number of CCTV cameras, it's like something out of Orwells 1984, a bit excessive I think.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #262 on: August 08, 2019, 02:34:39 PM »
I would think Stagecoach are finding it difficult to find drivers these days who can handle the manual crash gearbox on the FLF
Sounds like I might have to come out of retirement to drive it ??  There was only 3 of us at Cambridge who "regularly" used to, or could, drive it ! Two of us have retired, leaving my cousin David, as the only one left, I believe, who has ever driven it.

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« Reply #263 on: August 08, 2019, 03:48:41 PM »
Bristols were a bit primitive, then, in comparison with the post-1956 Leyland Titan PD3/4 with synchromesh and, I believe, pre-selector gears.
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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #264 on: August 08, 2019, 05:41:43 PM »
Only one interesting spotting in Bedford today and that was 36302 working an 81, what a luxurious journey that must have been in what I call one of the big brother buses due to the unbelievably large number of CCTV cameras, it's like something out of Orwells 1984, a bit excessive I think.

A totally unsuitable vehicle for the 81. This route can fill an E400 at times. Those Ex London E200's are too small and should never have been transferred to Bedford. Given their age they won't have more than 3 years service left with Stagecoach

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #265 on: August 09, 2019, 01:27:18 PM »
19703 was my bus home on the 9 yesterday as 37061 was on a W7.

This morning 18336 was my 81 into town. 36302 was entrusted to the 0839 2 to Flitwick whilst 11126 was on the 0836 50. 18419 and 18424 were on 1's and 18423 on 5's. The 0800 X5 from Cambridge was on the radar today and no surprises it was 19704 with 19705 going the other way on the 0731 MK to Cambridge X5.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #266 on: August 15, 2019, 10:17:55 AM »
I assume that they have found an answer to the Elites problems. A quick look on Saturday's X5 allocations on Saturday morning showed no E400's out but whether that was fact or some vehicles were not showing on the tracker I wouldn't know. Yesterday I could only find 19890 on the 0726 to Cambridge and this morning no E400's listed on the route just Elite's and Leyland olys 14341 and 14351 which I have not seen for donkeys years. Apparently 14341 is 54308 and 14351 is 54318. I never knew that but do now.

Buses to work yesterday were 19893 on the 9A and 37436 on the 6. Going home was better as I had 18336 on a 6 and 18424 on the 9 and whilst at the bus station 18423 arrived on a 5 and 18419 on a 1. Not often I see our four tridents in service at the same time. 37058 was parked up for its W7 turns. Less route variety this morning on the trident front with three of them on 1's just leaving 18336 on a 9B. This mornings work buses were 19890 on the 0837 9 and 19700 on the 0911 6. A completely different experience when the schools are off having buses on time.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #267 on: August 15, 2019, 02:41:11 PM »
I assume that they have found an answer to the Elites problems. A quick look on Saturday's X5 allocations on Saturday morning showed no E400's out but whether that was fact or some vehicles were not showing on the tracker I wouldn't know. Yesterday I could only find 19890 on the 0726 to Cambridge and this morning no E400's listed on the route just Elite's and Leyland olys 14341 and 14351 which I have not seen for donkeys years. Apparently 14341 is 54308 and 14351 is 54318. I never knew that but do now.

Buses to work yesterday were 19893 on the 9A and 37436 on the 6. Going home was better as I had 18336 on a 6 and 18424 on the 9 and whilst at the bus station 18423 arrived on a 5 and 18419 on a 1. Not often I see our four tridents in service at the same time. 37058 was parked up for its W7 turns. Less route variety this morning on the trident front with three of them on 1's just leaving 18336 on a 9B. This mornings work buses were 19890 on the 0837 9 and 19700 on the 0911 6. A completely different experience when the schools are off having buses on time.
If only there were Olympians working the X5 or indeed any route, I never thought I'd genuinely miss them as much as I do!

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #268 on: August 16, 2019, 01:20:19 PM »
My buses home were 19700 again on the 6 and 18336 on the 1800 9A or was it 9B. I never pay much attention to the suffix. 37063 was out on the W7.

This morning I had 19702 on the 9A and the more usual 27642 on the 6. 39681 did the 0836 50 and apparently 11127 is on the 1236 50. I did witness 19087 on the 0936 50, whilst 18336 was still on the 9A and 18419 and 18424 on 1's. 18423 has vanished again for the system like a problematic child.

Once more the X5 is dominated by Elite's with just 53617 the stray vehicle on the route. How much longer can they keep this up?

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #269 on: August 19, 2019, 01:45:47 PM »
On my way home Friday on 19700 on the 9 we passed 22834 in River St on W7 duties. This morning my 9 into town produced 18423 with 18336 working the other diagram before it got ripped so 19700 could resume its duties on the 9 from Friday. 18419 and 18424 were on 1's, 34830 on a 7 and 36302 on a 73.

Incredibly the X5 was 100% Elites as at 1330 hours today. How are they managing to keep this up? Curious how this reliability has improved since the open day. Did the mayor sprinkle them with magic dust? :P